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Old 07-30-2007, 05:20 PM
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Well stop. I went through all that trouble to get you to ignore me so I would not have to hear from you anymore. Please, not another barrage of PM's either.

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Old 07-30-2007, 07:37 PM
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why not support a homeless shelter instead? help people out instead of the animals. I will always support a human life over an animal. I like my dog but he is a dog.
And with this ensd any and all fundraisers/donations for school field trips, little league uniforms, higher education, college athletics, and local politics. After all, we should always support a human life over causes that are not life or death. Of course, maybe the alternative is that our donations and charity don't always have to go to the highest causes, if such a thing exists.

Although siezing upon Sushi's error is a great way to distract the issue and all (with the bonus of an opportunity to downplay Vick's actions with this subtle "dogs are only animals" campaign), her point is right. The reason we care what Vick is doing and not PETA is that PETA's protesting (or euthanizing animals) isn't at all comparable to Vick's actions, legally or morally. And it isn't true that we don't care what PETA does. Go search the poli forum and you can find threads bashing PETA.
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Old 07-31-2007, 08:47 AM
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Some details on what Tony Taylor plans to reveal in a supporting summary of facts statement for prosecutors in this story about his plea agreement.

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One of Michael Vick's codefendants pleaded guilty yesterday to his role in a dogfighting conspiracy he says was financed almost entirely by the Atlanta Falcons quarterback.
As part of a plea agreement, Tony Taylor pledged to fully cooperate with the government in its prosecution of Vick and two other men accused of running an interstate dogfighting enterprise known as "Bad Newz Kennels" on Vick's property in rural Surry County, Va.
"The 'Bad Newz Kennels' operation and gambling monies were almost exclusively funded by Vick," a summary of facts supporting the plea agreement and signed by Taylor states.
The plea deal requires Taylor to testify against Vick and his two remaining codefendants if called upon to do so. Taylor cannot get a stiffer sentence or face any new charges based on any new information he provides, according to terms of the agreement.
Additional charges are possible, however, against Vick and the other two. Federal prosecutors have said a superseding indictment will be issued in August.
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Old 07-31-2007, 09:24 AM
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at the end of his career.

With this plea agreement, I think that is enough for Goddell to suspend him for a year.
The best thing you could say about Vick is that he gave away his money to his friends and he had no idea they were running a dog fighting ring. And that still would be worthy of a lengthy suspension.
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Old 07-31-2007, 09:30 AM
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The best thing you could say about Vick is that he gave away his money to his friends and he had no idea they were running a dog fighting ring. And that still would be worthy of a lengthy suspension.
Ah yes, the stupidity excuse. I don't think that'll work for this scumbag. Thanks for the memories Ronnie.
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What other charges are possible as the result of Taylor's cooperation with federal prosecutors?

One of the admissions Taylor makes in his agreement with the government is that the kennel and the dogfighting were part of a "business enterprise." Vick and his lawyers do not want to hear about any "business enterprise." It could become the foundation for a racketeering charge in the new indictment to be filed next month. A racketeering charge would raise the stakes for Vick and the others. If they're convicted of racketeering, they could face stiffer prison sentences and forfeitures of anything they own. It was bad enough for Vick to have to defend himself against charges of a conspiracy that lasted for six years in five states. A racketeering charge would make it even more difficult for Vick and his five lawyers to mount a defense.

ESPN - Munson: More bad news for Michael Vick - NFL
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Old 07-31-2007, 11:10 AM
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