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08-16-2007, 08:45 PM
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Hopefully he gets the 5 years that he should get...
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08-16-2007, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by crazybuckfan40
Hopefully he gets the 5 years that he should get...
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yeah, 5 years for killing animals. What a great justice system. He would have been better off killing somebody while drunk. |
08-16-2007, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tibor75
yeah, 5 years for killing animals. What a great justice system. He would have been better off killing somebody while drunk.
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or been a forgein national who got off because no one could be found to interpret for him
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08-16-2007, 10:50 PM
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Consider this ...
What are the timelines for Vick?
9AM tomorrow morning. 8/17/07.
What happens if he accepts the agreement?
Potentially 1 to 2 years on the sentenced time behind bars.
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Vick had until 9 a.m. Friday morning to accept the deal, the person said. The deal would most likely come with a recommendation from prosecutors that Vick, the Atlanta Falcons quarterback, be sentenced to one to two years in prison.
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What are the chances that the NFL will look at that sentence as the be all and end all?
Slim.
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Michael Vick was the face of the Atlanta Falcons franchise, but his NFL career could suddenly be over because of his alleged involvement in dogfighting.
Assuming the Falcons would not welcome him back as their quarterback, Vick might have a hard time getting a second chance to play in the league. The team willing to give him that chance would have to endure a major public relations backlash for his alleged involvement in a blood sport.
Here are questions to consider regarding the quarterback's future on the field if he were to plead guilty to the charges against him:
What will the Falcons do?
Atlanta owner Arthur Blank likely would not let a felon convicted of dogfighting run his team. The question is how Blank would handle Vick's exodus. Cutting him would be the easy thing to do, but terminating Vick's contract could disqualify the franchise from claiming more than $22 million of signing bonus proration.
Vick has three years left on his contract, including this season. If he is unable to play in any of those seasons because of legal action, the Falcons can make a legal case that he failed to fulfill his contract, then claim the annual $7.5 million of signing bonus proration. Vick signed a 10-year, $130 million contract, and the Falcons can't go back and get money he earned by playing. But it makes good business sense to go after the money he collected in signing bonus even if it means keeping him on the roster while he serves any prison sentence and a possible NFL suspension.
What are his chances of getting back into the NFL?
Not good. It would take a general manager with a lot of wins on his r?sum? to go to his owner to suggest picking up Vick. An owner would have to endure the backlash. First, Vick would be a public relations nightmare. PETA would stage protests. There might be a backlash from season-ticket holders who could protest having a convicted dogfighter quarterbacking their team. Suite holders might want to drop their leases. Only general managers as strong as Bill Polian of the Colts or Ozzie Newsome of the Ravens would have the clout with their owners to make such a suggestion, but it's unlikely from a football and public relations sense that either would do it.
How desperate would a team have to be to take a chance on him?
Aside from the public relations problems, a team taking Vick would have to reshape its offense. Vick has evolved into a quarterback who works better in a running offense, and teams are looking for passers, not runners. In the past three seasons, Vick has been part of the league's No. 1-ranked rushing team. Coaches and general managers know a good running team can get to eight or nine wins quickly, but it's hard for a running team to get over the hump and win playoff games. Running teams usually don't score more than 20 points a game unless the defense gets points on turnovers.
The other problem is Vick is left-handed. If a team has a great left tackle, the offensive line would have to switch around to protect Vick from blind-side sacks. Vick also has trouble getting into a rhythm with his receivers because he is so fast in his retreat from center.
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Think also of this, not mentioned in the linked article, what about Goodell?
Do you honestly think he will let Vick back into the league without serving an independent NFL suspension?
Honestly?
Neither do I.
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08-17-2007, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by sandgk
Consider this ...
What are the timelines for Vick?
9AM tomorrow morning. 8/17/07.
What happens if he accepts the agreement?
Potentially 1 to 2 years on the sentenced time behind bars.
What are the chances that the NFL will look at that sentence as the be all and end all?
Slim.
Think also of this, not mentioned in the linked article, what about Goodell?
Do you honestly think he will let Vick back into the league without serving an independent NFL suspension?
Honestly?
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Had the exact same conversation with a guy at work today. Moron seemed to think Vick was going to sit out a year and be back and ready to go for some other team in '08. Seemed puzzled when I told him denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
You nailed every point I brought up to him. I would say 75% chance he never plays in the NFL again.
Even if he does, say 3 years from now, he'll have missed 2-3 years and need another year to get back in the game. I don't know his exact age but that should put him well into his 30's when he would be attempting the comeback.
Bottom line is we will never see the same Mike Vick again.
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08-17-2007, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tibor75
yeah, 5 years for killing animals. What a great justice system. He would have been better off killing somebody while drunk.
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God I hate to agree with tibs here, but what about the chick who got 7 months for wacking her husband? Vick should get more time than that? give me a friggin break.
The guy should get a year, do 6-9 months of it and have Peta after his ass forever, sorry a dogs life is not better than a persons life, regardless of circumstance.
Ding me if you want, that's my thoughts. |
08-17-2007, 12:51 AM
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