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Old 10-31-2005, 11:14 AM
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Old 10-31-2005, 11:23 AM
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<TABLE class=tborder cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR title="Post 311132" vAlign=top><TD class=alt1 align=middle width=125>ScarletBlood31</TD><TD class=alt2>i don't really feel THAT bad for him, considering he's going to the hall of fame and has a super bowl, MVP, and respect of his peers and the fans.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
doesnt he have 3 mvps?

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<TABLE class=tborder cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR title="Post 311105" vAlign=top><TD class=alt1 align=middle width=125>AKAKBUCK</TD><TD class=alt2>The Packers just aren't very good... period... Obviously they are dinged up at the skill positions.. and their offensive line is, well... terrible... I know size isn't everything, but their center looks like a HS player...

At any rate, at least Favre's trying... dunno about the rest of them... SHould he have retired by now? Sure... but, he's pretty much their whole offense right now...</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
with flanigans injury the line has zero legit nfl starters.
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Old 10-31-2005, 11:52 AM
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doesnt he have 3 mvps?



with flanigans injury the line has zero legit nfl starters.

yeah i wasnt saying how many he had, i was just simply listing that he has accomplished just about everything there is for an NFL QB to do
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Old 10-31-2005, 12:06 PM
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Old 10-31-2005, 12:34 PM
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yeah i wasnt saying how many he had, i was just simply listing that he has accomplished just about everything there is for an NFL QB to do
Adding to this sentiment, what was lost in the news yesterday was that Favre passed Elway as second on the all-time passing yardage list.
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Old 10-31-2005, 01:45 PM
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Like DE and coastal I'm also a big Packer fan. I can't really say anything that hasn't been said. Should Favre hang it up... NO. Key injuries have killed them this year, no question about it. The guy hasn't missed a game since 1992... he's played through so much pain and adversity (his fathers death, his brother in laws death, his wife battle with cancer to name a few) he deserves everyones respect whether you're a fan of his or not.

IMHO, the key moment that cost Favre at least two more Super Bowl appearances is when they named Mike Sherman GM... for years the front office has failed to surround him with the talent that he deserves to play with. It seems like they were always missing a key piece on offense.... Green was having monster seasons yet they had NO great wide receiver.... Walker comes on strong and then Green starts to go down hill. They let two of the better guards in the NFL leave last season and got nothing for them.... the team needs to be run better... the fans deserve it.

Defense has been the same problem... they were always lacking key pieces to be a complete unit. When they had great safety's/corner backs... the linebackers sucked.... when they drafted for linebackers... the DLine sucked (that's a HUGE problem now). Barnett is a great LB and one of my favorites right now in the league but their corner backs SUCK.... they drafted Carrol (sp) over Chris Gamble and the kid just can't develop. The NFC has receivers that are tall and they go out and draft a 5'9" CB...

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I like Favre as much as anybody but he's not done the Packers any favors by not being able to definitively tell them if he's going to retire. May be time to get Rodgers some PT soon.
Hell No... Rodgers is on the bench where he belongs... the kid was terrible in pre season has been in even worse in practice... If you put Rodgers in now he will end up like Ontario Smith (sp?).
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Hell No... Rodgers is on the bench where he belongs... the kid was terrible in pre season has been in even worse in practice... If you put Rodgers in now he will end up like Ontario Smith (sp?).
Onterrio Smith (sp?)- he's a running back. Akili Smith was the awesome QB for the Bengals.
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Old 10-31-2005, 01:58 PM
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