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Old 11-23-2005, 02:22 AM
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Phil Simms backs up son

I am not sure if any of you guys heard this today, but this is about stupid. All Young did was question a kids toughness and ole daddy goes spoutin' off about how young doesnt know what he is talking about. He obviously has to know something or else he wouldnt of won the championships and he wouldnt have gotten hired to be an analyst.

You don't see everyone elses parents whining when some calls their kid out.

Maybe Phil needs to take off the blinders and realize what Young is saying holds some weight.

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agitated Phil Simms responded directly to comments made on ESPN's Sunday pre-game show by Steve Young that seemed to question the mental toughness of Simms' son, Chris, who is now the starting quarterback for the Bucs.
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When asked about Young's comments, Simms, CBS' lead game analyst, said Young's assessment was "fantasy talk."

Simms questioned Young's TV work ethic by saying, "Well, Steve, follow football more than one day a week and you might know some of those answers."

After hearing Simms' response, Young left a message on Simms' cell phone, but did not plan on apologizing.

"Maybe what I will say is that I will be more careful about how I articulate what I'm thinking about young quarterbacks because it certainly had nothing to do with him personally," Young told The Post.

On ESPN's "NFL CountDown" Sunday, after saying Chris has a future in the league, Young added, "But what I worry about is his mental toughness. His dad was one of the greatest at being tough and handling all the criticisms . . . I worry that he grew up in a much different atmosphere, a laissez-faire kind of atmosphere. And I'm worried that he really doesn't have the mental toughness to deal with the information overload that comes with the NFL."

Simms responded by saying, "There is one thing I know my son doesn't lack, and that is toughness. And he didn't grow up in a laissez-faire atmosphere, far from it. Come to my house and live around with me and we'll see how laissez-faire it is.

"I don't know how Steve Young lives his life, but I don't live mine that way. And I didn't raise my kids that way. You can say whatever you want about my son, the one thing that will get me mad and I'll stand in your face about it, is about toughness."
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Old 11-23-2005, 02:34 AM
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You know what, Phil Simms probably said the same kind of thing that anyone would've said in that situation - he just happens to have a soapbox to stand on.

The NFL and it's fans completely overzealous, especially when it comes to psychoanalysis of players and the ways they are coached and raised as children.

What Young said was a backhanded slap at the Simms household. Things are going too far when people are going on TV saying somebody will struggle with the NFL because of the way they were raised.

Oh, and the last time I checked, Phil Simms quarterbacked as many Super Bowl Champion teams as Young did.
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Old 11-23-2005, 03:03 AM
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From what I've heard/read, Young was blaming Chris Simms' lack of toughness on his upbringing which gives Papa Simms all the right in the world to come to his boys defense. I kind of liked Steve Young as a commentator, but this was a real cheap shot on his part. Good on Daddy Phil for coming to his boys defense. Classless move on Youngs part. It's one thing to question a QB's toughness, it's another to blame it on his upbringing. What a joke.
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The NEXT Simms (coming out of Don Bosco in Jersey.. '07) will be a phenom
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I also like Young. What I don't understand is why the heck he made the comment. Doesn't really add anything. He cannot have any real knowledge about Simms upbringing and what took place in their house. So why even go there? Perhaps Young learned something from this that will make him a better sportscaster.
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From what I've heard/read, Young was blaming Chris Simms' lack of toughness on his upbringing which gives Papa Simms all the right in the world to come to his boys defense. I kind of liked Steve Young as a commentator, but this was a real cheap shot on his part. Good on Daddy Phil for coming to his boys defense. Classless move on Youngs part. It's one thing to question a QB's toughness, it's another to blame it on his upbringing. What a joke.
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