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I think it speaks volumes that Phil was willimg to part with Bodden. As bad as our defense was last year, he just showed exactly what he thought the cause was by trading away our best DB.
Our secondary certainly wasn't good last year, and on paper it's awful right now, but I think Phil is extatic that our defensive line became a strength overnight.
There's no way we go into the season with the current roster at DB right now either. We will pick up a starting CB whether through trade or free agency.
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03-02-2008, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by billmac91
I think it speaks volumes that Phil was willimg to part with Bodden. As bad as our defense was last year, he just showed exactly what he thought the cause was by trading away our best DB.
Our secondary certainly wasn't good last year, and on paper it's awful right now, but I think Phil is extatic that our defensive line became a strength overnight.
There's no way we go into the season with the current roster at DB right now either. We will pick up a starting CB whether through trade or free agency.
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I disagree on how bad the secondary is with the roster right now. Eric Wright is a player, and he'll develop, I think, into a shut-down corner this year. The safeties are average and the other corner position can be shored up if McDonald continues to emerge.
What is a fair criticism is that the secondary is thin... very thin, and if there is an injury, they're gonna have some major problems. |
03-02-2008, 07:53 PM
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I don't think the Browns 4 starters at the end of last year in the starting defensive backfield was that bad. Wright and MacDonald were young but they both have pretty good coverage skill and our safeties of Jones and Pool will improve with more playing time.
There is no way in the NFL that you can trade for a starting CB. The price would be too high. You either have to get one through FA or get lucky in the draft.
It is true that we have bolstered the defense to stop the run but we cannot let our past coverage go by the wayside. If we do not get another good pass rushing OLB our pass coverage will suffer. The two tackles we picked up, except maybe for Williams, are run stuffers not pass rushers.
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Truthfully, I'm not sure what our cap room is like right now after all of these signings, are the 2 unrestricted free agents that could start immediately for us if they were signed.
Ty Law
Brian Kelly
Outside of them, we'd basically need to make a trade, or hope we can get a steal in the 4th round.
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03-02-2008, 07:57 PM
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I disagree on how bad the secondary is with the roster right now. Eric Wright is a player, and he'll develop, I think, into a shut-down corner this year. The safeties are average and the other corner position can be shored up if McDonald continues to emerge.
What is a fair criticism is that the secondary is thin... very thin, and if there is an injury, they're gonna have some major problems.
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I appreciate your opinion OH10. I agree with you 99% of the time. On our secondary I completely disagree. They were bad last year, but much of that was due to the DL. If you compare our secondary on paper to the rest of the league, we have to be bottom 5 or 6. The addition of another CB definately upgrades us though. |
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I appreciate your opinion OH10. I agree with you 99% of the time. On our secondary I completely disagree. They were bad last year, but much of that was due to the DL. If you compare our secondary on paper to the rest of the league, we have to be bottom 5 or 6. The addition of another CB definately upgrades us though.
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First off, I'd like to say that you have a really classy way of making your points, billmac. Agree that right now, on paper, the secondary is thin. But adding to the DL the way Phil has done immediately makes the guys that we do have alot better. Obviously, you're a great fan. Have confidence in the guys running the show. That's the excuse I've always used, but in the Browns case, I think it's a good one.
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First off, I'd like to say that you have a really classy way of making your points, billmac. Agree that right now, on paper, the secondary is thin. But adding to the DL the way Phil has done immediately makes the guys that we do have alot better. Obviously, you're a great fan. Have confidence in the guys running the show. That's the excuse I've always used, but in the Browns case, I think it's a good one.
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Thanks dubs. I definately agree, the incoming DLineman automatically make the guys we do have better. Unfortunately, we're a starting CB short of going from what's on paper an average/good defense to a good/great defense.
Gotta give Phil credit for what he's done so far though. I'm making an assumption, but after the last couple years I'd be willing to bet Phil thinks it's a lot harder tp get good DLineman for our defense as opposed to CB's. Kind of like in the Patriots system where they seem to have a revolving door in the secondary. It all starts up front. That being said, we still need to add one more piece to the secondary.
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03-03-2008, 05:13 AM
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Quinn wants to take over as starting quarterback
Cleveland GM Phil Savage says Derek Anderson is the clear leader heading into training camp.
Associated Press
Monday, March 03, 2008
CLEVELAND ? Browns quarterback Brady Quinn expects to compete for the starting job despite Derek Anderson's $24 million, three-year contract.
"My whole goal is preparing myself and getting ready to try to take over the starting job and lead this team," said Quinn Saturday, March 1, during an appearance at an auto show.
Anderson agreed to his new deal Friday, Feb. 29, a move that took him off the restricted free-agent market. The contract includes $14.5 million guaranteed.
General Manager Phil Savage says Anderson is the clear starter entering training camp. Anderson threw 29 TD passes last season and led the Browns to 10 wins.
Quinn understands the situation and even applauded Anderson's signing, but doesn't plan on carrying a clipboard again. His mind-set is "just competing and try to take this team to the playoffs, something we weren't able to do last year."
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