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The Browns are another shining example of a sham of Cleveland pro franchises scamming the hard working people of NE Ohio betting on the come.

Every pro franchise in every other city eventually spends the dollars to provide the carrot. Not any of Clevelands despicable owners are going to part with one red cent, but they will gladly take yours in order to keep you waiting for next year and do it to you again!

You think the owners of all these teams got to where they are by being completely inept.

I don't even live there but they did it to me for 40 years.
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What the hell are you talking about? Phil Savage is one of the best GM's and they are very active in FA and spending money. Having some idea what you're talking about will help you in the future...
Also, don't forget about Dan Gilbert of the Cavs who just took on a $13 million dollar salary cap hit to bring in some help for LeBron. The Cavs now have one of the five highest payrolls in the NBA.
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Old 02-29-2008, 10:47 PM
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I wasn't at the game in Cinci, but comparing the performance of the two passers Carson Palmer and DA on that day with their Week 2 game, something happened.

Week 2 Bengals at Browns;

C.Palmer 33 of 50, 401yds. 6tds 2 ints 113.4 pass eff. rating

Anderson 20 of 33 328yds 5tds 1 int. 121 pass eff. rating

Week 16 Browns at Bengals

C.P. 11 of 21 115 yards 1 td 2 int. 44.8 eff. rating (Lowest of his season)

D.A. 29 of 48 251 yards 2 td 4 int. 53.4 eff. rating (lowest of his season)

I wasn't on the field but can only surmise with the Browns staff that the late season drop in performance level of DA were weather related or defenses catching up with offensive schemes.
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I'd say it was mostly weather-related but maybe he was also showing his YOUTH. It was Anderson's first go round in a playoff atmosphere and he came up short. He's a young guy, and is basically coming off of a rookie season.

Maybe we should just get C.C. Sabathia's ass out of town since he had a bad post-season. He must not be talanted either.
I was at that game in Cincinnati. The weather contriubuted, but only insofar as Derek Anderson made decisions that he shouldn't have been making with the weather being what it was. In my book, the weather is not an excuse. These guys (players and coaches) are supposed to be professionals. It is their responsibility to handle a situation like the one in Cincy, and they all responded poorly. The coaches made poor decisions to be aggressive in poor conditions with poor field position and little time left at the end of that first half. Derek Anderson made poor decisions throwing the football. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. He was essentially a rookie QB, and I think he stands a good chance of learning from those mistakes and making better decisions in pressure situations as he evolves into a veteran QB.
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What am I talking about...not a damn thing the proof is in the pudding. So I am truly the one who knows what's really going.

Sticking up for the best POS's in the land won't change a thing.

Besides, Savage isn't an owner but a pawn.
So the Browns didn't spend a [censored] load of money last year getting Lewis, Steinbach, Smith, Peak, or Thomas? They didn't go 10-6 this year and barely miss the playoff's? That isn't a huge improvement?

Congratulations...you now sound like the world's dumbest human being.
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POSTED 9:47 p.m. EST, February 29, 2008
ROGERS TO BROWNS A DONE DEAL
According to Hondo Carpenter of SpartanNation.com, who as we understand it is very well plugged in as to the goings on in Motown, the Lions have finalized a trade of defensive tackle Shaun Rogers to the Browns.
In return, the Lions reportedly will get cornerback Leigh Bodden and a third-round draft choice.
Carpenter says that the league office rejected a trade that would have sent Rogers to the Bengals for a third-round and a fifth-round pick.
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ROGERS TO BROWNS A DONE DEAL
According to Hondo Carpenter of SpartanNation.com, who as we understand it is very well plugged in as to the goings on in Motown, the Lions have finalized a trade of defensive tackle Shaun Rogers to the Browns.
In return, the Lions reportedly will get cornerback Leigh Bodden and a third-round draft choice.
Carpenter says that the league office rejected a trade that would have sent Rogers to the Bengals for a third-round and a fifth-round pick.
The Lions were going to accept a 3rd & a 5th from the Bengals and the Browns are going to give up a 3rd and Leigh Bodden? Huh? I realize that the Bengals 3rd is a little higher but there's no way Leigh Bodden is only worth a 5th rounder.
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I do believe a very good D-line magically makes average cover guys All Pro...
but even All Pro cover guys are [censored]ty... if there is a bad line

All starts up front... on BOTH sides of the ball
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