Donte Stallworth Browns WR

[Bucklion]

Stallworth thinks he is being punished too much, apparently:

Judge expected to hear Donte' Stallworth's request to reduce house arrest, probation - ESPN

Cuz, you know, this whole house arrest and probation thing is really cutting into his time in the jacuzzi with the ladies. I mean it's not like he killed anyone...oh wait...

[Buckrock]

Originally Posted by Bucklion

Stallworth thinks he is being punished too much, apparently:

Judge expected to hear Donte' Stallworth's request to reduce house arrest, probation - ESPN

Cuz, you know, this whole house arrest and probation thing is really cutting into his time in the jacuzzi with the ladies. I mean it's not like he killed anyone...oh wait...

It sure seemed like a good deal 3 months ago! Sounds like a typical modern day Athlete renegotiating. Unbelievable.

[Bucklion]

And so it goes...

Stallworth freed to train away from home during house arrest - NFL - CBSSports.com Football

[LitlBuck]

I am pretty sure that he will be suspended by Goodell for this season and even if he is not everything that I have read indicates that he will not play for the Cleveland Browns this year. If he has not suspended for the entire season by the NFL, the Browns take a huge salary cap hit.

Aside from the football part, the ruling and subsequent sentence by the judge is criminal no matter how much the family receives from Stallworth.

[Bucklion]

Gone for the '09 season without pay (at least for now):

Donte' Stallworth suspended without pay for 2009 season - ESPN

[Bleed S & G]

Good

[MaxBuck]

Being kept away from one's livelihood for a year for a DUI is excessive IMO.

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by MaxBuck

Being kept away from one's livelihood for a year for a DUI is excessive IMO.

Except that it wasn't *just* a DUI....

[MaxBuck]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

Except that it wasn't *just* a DUI....

The crime was DUI. The consequences were tragic, but I don't see why the fact some poor dweeb walked out in front of Stallworth's car should lead to a quantum change in the league's punishment of him.

If all DUIs are sentenced by the league to a year without pay, then I'm OK with this situation. Otherwise it's unfair. JMO.

[Bucklion]

Originally Posted by MaxBuck

The crime was DUI. The consequences were tragic, but I don't see why the fact some poor dweeb walked out in front of Stallworth's car should lead to a quantum change in the league's punishment of him.

If all DUIs are sentenced by the league to a year without pay, then I'm OK with this situation. Otherwise it's unfair. JMO.

So you are actually saying that even though he killed somebody driving while drunk and high on gonja, this should be treated like any other DUI? His plea agreement is between him and the law, but the circumstances have to be taken into consideration, no? Just because he pled out doesn't mean he didn't kill the guy.

[methomps]

Originally Posted by MaxBuck

The crime was DUI. The consequences were tragic, but I don't see why the fact some poor dweeb walked out in front of Stallworth's car should lead to a quantum change in the league's punishment of him.

If all DUIs are sentenced by the league to a year without pay, then I'm OK with this situation. Otherwise it's unfair. JMO.

Actually, the crimes were DUI and second degree manslaughter.

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by MaxBuck

The crime was DUI. The consequences were tragic, but I don't see why the fact some poor dweeb walked out in front of Stallworth's car should lead to a quantum change in the league's punishment of him.

If all DUIs are sentenced by the league to a year without pay, then I'm OK with this situation. Otherwise it's unfair. JMO.

just because our legal system let him get off for killing someone with a slap on the wrist doesn't mean the NFL is obligated to look at it the same way.

[OHSportsFan9]

Just another note-

There was video (unreleased) that showed the man running into the street, which played a role in the trial.

I do, however, think he was let off easy. Very easy.

[Dryden]

Originally Posted by OHSportsFan9

There was video (unreleased) that showed the man running into the street, which played a role in the trial.

I heard this also on the E60 interview that Michael Smith did with Stallworth. Smith explained that there was a traffic camera at the location that happened to catch the entire sequence. Reyes walked out into the bus lane from behind a palm tree on a divided highway and into on-coming traffic, in the dark, pre-dawn hours. The video was reported by Michael Smith to be the reason the family immediately agreed to settle.

Originally Posted by Bucklion

So you are actually saying that even though he killed somebody driving while drunk and high on gonja, this should be treated like any other DUI?

It has been reported that while Stallworth tested positive for marijuana, he had not smoked in the immediate days leading up to the accident. I would also question how drunk a person of his size/mass could get from two beers and four shots, let alone being several hours prior to the time the accident occurred. I think it's possible to be over the legal BAC yet not be "drunk."

I'm not excusing Stallworth. But I believe him (or anyone) can go home from a bar, sleep, wake up, then decide to get behind the wheel to go get breakfast, and not feel drunk or even feel inhibited by what happened over six hours before.

[Bucklion]

Originally Posted by Dryden

I heard this also on the E60 interview that Michael Smith did with Stallworth. Smith explained that there was a traffic camera at the location that happened to catch the entire sequence. Reyes walked out into the bus lane from behind a palm tree on a divided highway and into on-coming traffic, in the dark, pre-dawn hours. The video was reported by Michael Smith to be the reason the family immediately agreed to settle.


It has been reported that while Stallworth tested positive for marijuana, he had not smoked in the immediate days leading up to the accident. I would also question how drunk a person of his size/mass could get from two beers and four shots, let alone being several hours prior to the time the accident occurred. I think it's possible to be over the legal BAC yet not be "drunk."

I'm not excusing Stallworth. But I believe him (or anyone) can go home from a bar, sleep, wake up, then decide to get behind the wheel to go get breakfast, and not feel drunk or even feel inhibited by what happened over six hours before.

Well only he knows how much he actually consumed and how he felt, of course. But the bottom line is that his BAC was rather high (I dispute the notion that it has anything to do with his size since it is a %, but whatever) and he ended up in a bad situation that was his fault because he was, well, I would say drunk, people can call it what they want. The sad thing for him, I suppose, is that had he had a BAC below the limit I doubt he would have even been charged...but then again, that's the point, isn't it? No one tied him down and poured the booze in his throat, or forced him behind the wheel, so he put himself in that position...and he has no one to blame but himself. When you do stupid [censored] like drive drunk, bad things can happen...period.