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2012 GOP Presidential Primary (Official)

Discussion in 'Political Conversation and Debate' started by PlanetFrnd, Oct 4, 2010.

  1. PlanetFrnd

    PlanetFrnd Newbie

    In a political world where it's never too early... why not start this thread?

    Politico wrote this a while back:

    http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=506E9A42-0184-3BF7-6F2F8D12EC95F5F3

    Which Krugman cited in an editorial, here:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/04/opinion/04krugman.html?src=me&ref=general

    I know how many out here feel about Krugman, but my point has nothing to do with his opinion, in this case...

    ...It is strange, awkward and intriguing that all of these potential candidates are Fox News people. It's not really a secret that Fox doesn't like Romney, so he was going to get lambasted by them anyways, but what will they do regarding so many of their own running for POTUS? And what is made of all the contractual restrictions regarding appearances on other networks?

    Also, I just wanted to start another "Official" thread...
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  2. MaxBuck

    MaxBuck Slam Thompson!

    Jeebers. If anyone thought Palin was an overcooked right-wing nanny, just wait till you get a load of Rick Santorum. And he's thinking of a Presidential run?

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  3. Gatorubet

    Gatorubet Banned

    People will forget his K-Street involvement, his lying about working with Jack Abramoff, his comment blaming the Catholic Priest sex scandal on Liberal culture in Massachusetts, his support of the criminalization of homosexuality, etc., and fall for his family values shtick.

    Hey, he is working with a think tank identifying who/what foreigners are a threat to the US, so he is timely with his message.
  4. DaytonBuck

    DaytonBuck I've always liked them

  5. Mike80

    Mike80 CRUCKER CROAKER!!

    I have two predictions that may or may not come true:

    1. If John Kasich is anywhere near popular or somewhat successful (If elected), he will get SERIOUS consideration for the VP slot on the ticket regardless of the Presidential pick. This move would almost certainly lock up Ohio for the GOP if those conditions are met and the top of the ticket isn't completely stupid (Palin)

    2. The top of the ticket likely won't be someone that is currently being hyped up. Palin won't take the pay cut, Romney doesn't move the needle for either conservative or moderate republicans, Santorum lost, which is usually the death knell and all things being equal, Rick Perry won't get much consideration because we just had a Texas Governor become President.

    It'll be interesting to see who emerges from the pack.
  6. Gatorubet

    Gatorubet Banned

    Gonna be a governor. I can see Haley Barbour as a dark horse.
  7. Mike80

    Mike80 CRUCKER CROAKER!!

    Unfortunately at work we have two choices right now, Fox News or CNN. Neither one is nonpartisan in the least. One plays cheerleaders of the Tea Partiers and the other literally goes out of its way to kiss Obama's ass just as far.
  8. fourteenandoh

    fourteenandoh My swing feels like an unfolding lawn chair.

    Indiana?

    Mitch Daniels may make a move. He is quite popular in Indiana (especially if you consider the climate these days).
  9. DaytonBuck

    DaytonBuck I've always liked them

    I think this primary cycle the grass roots/tea party types will be the key to whoever wins.

    I think Tim Pawlently and Mitch Daniels are 2 of the strongest governors. Haley Barbour is too old school white southern Republican to win. Daniels has a libertarian streak to him and wants to call a truce on social issues. He's had a good track record of governor and his made some fiscally conservative moves as governor to get tea party support.

    Gary Johnson will probably pick up the support of the Ron Paul wing assuming Ron doesn't run again.

    Palin I think would win if she went after it.

    I think the dark horse is Demint because he could rally social conservatives, tea party/fiscal conservatives.
  10. MaxBuck

    MaxBuck Slam Thompson!

    The Republican Party, if it wants to regain the White House, needs to keep the social conservative off the main ticket at all costs. Americans who want to dump Obama are only maybe 60% social conservative. Romney would be a great choice IMO.
  11. PlanetFrnd

    PlanetFrnd Newbie

    An awful state with few, if any, redeeming qualities...

    oh, was that not the question?
  12. buckeyegrad

    buckeyegrad Apathetic Prophet of Doom Staff Member

    Plus, if fiscal conservatism is still what is driving the Republican's message in two years, Haley doesn't come out too good when you actually look at what he has done is Mississippi--at least according to the Cato Institute that only gave him a C.

    http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/html/PA668/PA668index.html

    So, keeping a fiscal and social conservative off the ticket, even at the VP level, say someone like Gov. Jindal, is a good idea? Let me get this straight, ignoring your largest and strongest base, a base that will not show up to vote if it feels it isn't represented, is the way to win elections? How do you come to this conclusion?
  13. tsteele316

    tsteele316 Mr. Such and Such

    i think his position is that a fiscal conservative but social moderate is the best angle to attracting the "undecided"/"independent" segment while still generating enough support and turnout from the base.
  14. Gatorubet

    Gatorubet Banned

    True. It depends whether they want to win or just vote a philosophy. But since America can't stand Republicans even less than donkeys, mostly due to their stance on social issues, you have to have a somewhat fiscal conservative that is not a full bore social conservative. And as people want some level of working with the other side, and not just a party of "No", a C guy would be electable.

    Or you could just nominate an idiot like Palin and go down in flames.
  15. NewYorkBuck

    NewYorkBuck Do not read this title Staff Member

    Oh if only Ron Paul's position did not entail the opposite of buying votes....

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