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2012 Offense Discussion

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by BB73, Dec 18, 2011.

  1. BB73

    BB73 Loves Buckeye History Staff Member Bookie

    For talk about the overall offense. There are specific thread for QB, RB, OL, TE, and WR, as well as threads for each individual player.

    Please attempt to post comments in the most appropriate thread.

    2012 QB - last year's: 2011 QB

    2012 RB - last year's: 2011 RB

    2012 OL - last year's: 2011 OL

    2012 TE - last year's: 2011 TE

    2012 WR - last year's: 2011 WR
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2012
  2. 808 Buck

    808 Buck Junior

    2012 tOSU Offense Discussion

    Saw this in a recruit's thread, wanted to discuss it further, didn't see an Offense Discussion thread for the upcoming season, so here we are. I've seen several posts talking about recruits taking on the Harvin role, but other than Jordan Hall, nothing about returnees who might be good candidates. I'm wondering if Philly Brown might get a long look during the spring. Running back background in high school, primarily a stretch guy in the current scheme, I'd kind of like to see him get the ball in other ways and see what he can do. Granted he's not the biggest guy, but Meyer's talk of attacking the perimeter seems to fit Brown's skill set. Verlon Reed is another guy I'd like to see get the ball in his hands quicker. Those who have a greater knowledge of Meyer's offense might want to add what/who they see as potential playmakers.
  3. pnuts34

    pnuts34 Follower of Urban and the OSU way

    From my eyes it seemed like our best players missed a chunk of the year and aren't returning this year. For 2012 we don't have many guys that u can say worry defensive coordinators. We have a lot of unproven wrs, I think Devin Smith is the best of them based off of last year. He put in work when called on. The rest of the wrs had problems just catching the ball, other than Reed who u can't really count because he was injured. Stoneburner will be a threat again. And Hyde should flourish next year along with hall. But we need to find ways to.get Philly brown the ball, if it'd just handoffs, screens something because his hands r terribly inconsistent. Hopefully the jugs machine is his best friend this offseason, because when he learns to catch consistently, watch out! Speed we haven't seen since Ted ginn. But braxton will be our most dynamic player, he will be the straw that stirs the drink for us. We need his qb play to step up in a big way for us to be successful in any way. Its going to be hard to rely on any of the frosh realistically. And we're going to need solid to stellar o line play as well because we have little depth.
  4. Taosman

    Taosman I Survived The BP Zombie Survival Camp 2014

    D. Smith is a speedster but needed to get stronger.
    Philly Brown was hurt a lot but is a down field threat.
    Stony is a mismatch nightmare.
    As is Hall.
    Hyde is a speedster who can score from anywhere on the field.
    Brax can take it the distance.
    Maybe the "problem" was a lot of conservative play calling? Not using our "speed" guys enough?
  5. ScarletnGray 33

    ScarletnGray 33 Freshman

    Yuck.. I hate the "next Percy Harvin" comments about every 6'ish ATH. Every guy that Florida recruited like that after Harvin was the next Percy Harvin (Rainey, Dubose, etc...), and now Cyrus Jones, Joel Caleb, and Stefon Diggs are all the next Percy Harvin?

    Percy Harvin is a fantastic wide receiver, and there aren't many guys like him. I just hate that every time there is a player with moves in the open field that has a similar build, he's labeled as the next Percy Harvin...

    I get it. Urban used smallish WR's and RB's that were quick as hell and had a lot of success sweeping them off of the threat of Tebow's pounding it up the middle.. Just say we're looking for slasher type guys that are difficult to tackle in the open field, not the next Percy Harvin.

    Not criticizing you personally, just my most recent pet peeve... :)
  6. I don't necessarily agree. I guess I can't speak for others, but I don't see Diggs/Jones as "the next Percy Harvin" as much as I view them as potential players to play the Percy Harvin "position." Percy was such an unbelievable talent (#1 recruit in the country I believe). But his POSITION was/is vital in UFM's offense, and I view players like Diggs and/or Jones as players who can play in a similar role.
  7. scarletngray

    scarletngray Gold Pants

    It's a misconception to think that Urban does not like a power game. Watch what he did with Tebow. Tebow was his power back and he used him often.
    A Percy Harvin type would be great but there are not many Percy Harvins out there. It may take a couple years of recruiting before he finds the right kind of player to fit that role.

    In the mean time, I do think J. Hall and Berry (if he stays) would be the closest thing we have right now to fit that bill.

    :osu:
  8. pnuts34

    pnuts34 Follower of Urban and the OSU way


    I personally think Philly brown is the closest to a Slasher(I'm trying not to use the harvin comparison either, lol) type player we have. Hall(I'm not really including Berry on our roster anymore) didn't run the ball to the outside often, he pounded the ball surprisingly well for his size. Philly is a very good perimeter player with probably the most speed on the team
  9. Mrstickball

    Mrstickball Sophmore

    Ultimately, Meyer's offenses have always utilized whoever was available to their best abilities. If Stoneburner stays, we will have a huge weapon in the passing game to augment the growing experience of the WR corp (which lacks going into next year with no other veteran target).

    I predict that we're going to see Urban spread the ball around to create mis-matches for defenses, showing that they cannot key in on one guy. When Braxton runs a PA, the defense will have to respect both the run and the pass - as Urban will prove both are a threat by allowing Braxton to have a TE or slot option available.

    The running game will be beastly. Hyde/Hall will be able to provide great options for Meyer, as Hall can catch out of the backfield and prove himself as a viable WR/RB threat that never materialized this year, with Hyde getting a good dose of carries.


    I'll throw out some really early predictions:

    Braxton Miller - 600yds rushing, 2300yds passing (Josh Harris 2002 type numbers)
    Carlos Hyde - 950yds rushing, primary back
    Jordan Hall - 700yds between running & receiving
    Jake Stoneburner - 750yds receiving
    6 players with 10 catches or more

    OSU may not have a Percy Harvin, but what we do have somewhere is a Steve Savoy, which was the prototype for Harvin at Florida. In 2004, he had 300yds running on 22 touches, and 960 yards receiving at Utah.
  10. 79Redmen

    79Redmen Newbie

    Dynamic Playmakers

    UFM rule is to get the best 6 playmakers the ball with opportunity to make plays. 1) Braxton Miller.... then he will need to find the next 5. I think they will be Carlos Hyde, Verlon Reed, Devin Smith, Philly Brown & Stoneburner.

    Rod Smith, Evan Spencer, and Berry (if he stays on the team) could be in the 6. Not as confident about Jordan Hall.
  11. ant80

    ant80 Think less, feel more.

    I'd like to see a 1000yd RB, just to shut up the idiots who diss Urban for never had one.
  12. k2onprimetime

    k2onprimetime All in

    Meyer is walking into a good Situation on Offense, besides the OL. Evan Spencer, Devin Smith, and Philly Brown are perfect for his offense. Add in Stoneburner and plenty of RBs, and B10 freshman of the year, we should see fireworks this year...
  13. OHSportsFan

    OHSportsFan Fan of Ohio Sports in Indy

    Looks like next year will be a 12 game audition for 2013.

    Play hard fellas.
  14. Merih

    Merih GO BUCKS!

    Part II of BoulderBuck's great breakdown on the Urban Meyer offense is now out. It focuses on the passing game, and is a must read IMO. You can find it (along with Part I) HERE.
  15. BB73

    BB73 Loves Buckeye History Staff Member Bookie

    Brandon Castel looks at a potential depth chart for the 2012 offense.

    Ozone

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