Discussion in 'Football Recruiting' started by wadc45, Jul 12, 2011.
bleacher report is an awesome source for recruiting, said nobody
How would Elder impact your list? His interest seems legit.
Not wad, but IMO Elder is a Plan B guy.
Agreed. BR is usually a day late and a dollar Short from every other recruiting site
Elder seems like a longshot. Timmons is more realistic to land, imo as a plan b guy
Agreed, I am usually grossed out by BR. If you read the link, the real ethics question is that they cite as a source what someone told buckeyegrove. So yeah, there would be a reason they are a day late. However, they charge less.
Our OL recruiting seems to be the weakest link
Maybe it's a bunch of bad luck, maybe the relationships just had not been established, maybe the desire is really not that strong, but whatever it is, we seem to be missing on great prospects out in the open. I just hope it is not a personality thing with the OL coordinator. I hope we finish strong and do better next year in a position of need.
Bollman isn't here anymore...
If the offensive line continues trending the way it did this year, and if we are able to hang onto Warriner, I think it could become one of the strongest units on the team, the conference, and perhaps the nation in the near future. Both from a production and a recruiting standpoint.
It can't happen overnight. I'm guessing that many of the '13 OL recruits are still affected by perceptions they have of the offensive line under Bollman, which is what I think Mililani was suggesting. The line's success on the field this year will hopefully pay huge dividends in the next several years.
Corn's January 11th visit is in line with your IMO.
Agree with Kren. I believe it was Byrne, maybe another '14 OL recruit that said he was impressed with the OL this year and was following their success closely. We just need more time for this. Keeping our OL coach will be huge for continued success on the field and developing relationships with recruits. The Walrus had higher ranked recruits and did less with them. It will take some time to change this reputation but we are getting there.
One thing I did want to add. Does anyone think the spread is seen by recruits as having less importance on a strong O Line and therefore showcases the players talents less? I for one think this is dead wrong but I can see a young man thinking this way compared to a traditional offense.
It already has happened overnight. I don't know that OSU has ever recruited one group of three OL with a stronger pedigree than Adams, Brewster and Shugarts. Four years later only Adams made all Big Ten and he was second team.
This year Norwell is first team, Mewhort is second team and Linsley and Fragel (a converted TE no less) are honorable mention. We only have five upperclassmen on the OL and four were mentioned for all Big Ten.
We have evolved a mindset that we need 15 strong OL recruits on the roster because so few pan out. No longer true.
Any OL with an open mind has to be giving us a strong look right now. Urban has two months to put that message in Dawson's ear.
Well then one of 2 things is the case. Either a.) O Line prospects don't by nature have an open mind or b.) Urban pulls a rabbit out of his hat because outside of Lisle it has been tough sledding this year. The one ray of hope I have is that most of the top shelf OL kids gave their verbal early this year and perhaps we can flip one when we present our resume from this year.
Maybe it is just bad timing this year. Most of your top shelf recruits gave their verbal based on our past history. Let's hope one of them will see our success this year, the chance to play for a few NC starting next year and a favorable depth chart.
And a fantastic o-line coach.
All excellent points. I guess my point was that, because it took a season for this change to be demonstrated/proven on the field, it didn't happen quite quickly enough to sway all those '13 blue chip OL recruits that we whiffed on this year (Lisle, and hopefully Dawson, being the lone exceptions at this point). It seems that the foundation for OL recruiting success has clearly been laid for '14 and beyond though.
Was glad to see that Bank's update yesterday evening was pretty close to what I had.
Not to toot my own horn but...toot toot.
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