Discussion in 'Football Recruiting' started by MD Buckeye, May 3, 2012.
Cue Chicken Little...again.
Compare the top 10 players in Ohio last year to this year. If you do you will realize that Ohio is a little down this year.
It's definitely more of a down year in Ohio. I'm not worried at all. I don't think this class gets filled with anything but studs the rest of the way.
Even if this year ended up being a slight down year (kind of like 2003 & 2007 were for Tressel), I still think this class be much more talented than any of Tressel's less impressive recruiting years.
Urban can't open.
I went back & checked the closest ESPN rankings to this time last year to compare with the current crop.
Damon Webb - **** #8 CB, #1 TSUN, #57 National
Dante Booker - **** #8 OLB, #3 OH, #156 National
Jalyn Holmes - **** #6 TE, #7 VA, #293 National
Kyle Berger - **** #26 OLB, #11 OH, #299 National
Kyle Trout - *** #22 OT, #13 OH
Dylan Thompson - **** #28 DT, #10 IL
Lonnie Johnson - **** #41 WR, #5 IN
Parris Campbell Jr. - *** #38 RB, #15 OH
Sam Hubbard - *** #28 OLB, #21 OH
Marcelys Jones - *** #34 OG, #22 OH
Sean Nuernberger -
Eli Woodward - **** #3 CB, #1 NJ, #11 National
Cameron Burrows - **** #4 CB, #1 Ohio, #19 National
Joey Bosa - **** #6 DT, #14 FL, #44 National
Jalin Marshall - **** #8 Ath, #3 Ohio, #74 National
Marcus Baugh - **** #4 TE, #10 CA, #126 National
Evan Lisle - **** #11 OT, #7 Ohio, #145 National
J.T. Barrett - **** #6 Dual QB, #28 TX, #185 National
Billy Price - **** #16 DT, #11 Ohio, #201 National
Jayme Thompson - **** #11 S, #12 Ohio, #203 National
Michael Hill - **** #17 DT, #4 SC, #229 National
Ezekiel Elliott - **** #25 RB, #3 Missouri, #255 National
Tracy Sprinkle - *** #43 DE, #29 Ohio
Darron Lee -
Johnny Townsend -
Is there a significant difference between Evan Lisle & Kyle Trout? Billy Price & Dylan Thompson? Jayme Thompson & Parris Campbell?
To be honest the biggest difference between the two classes that I see is that this time last year Cam, Jalin & Bosa had committed while Marshon, Erick & Kwon haven't so far this year. Add those three and the classes are very similar.
As far as the class top 10 comparison goes (using the 247 composite):
1. Marshon Lattimore <> Jalin Marshall
2. Dante Booker <> Cam Burrows
3. Michael Ferns <> Dymonte Thomas
4. Kyle Berger <> Evan Lisle
5. Parris Campbell <> Michael McCray
6. Derek Kief <> Taco Charlton
7. Erick Smith <> Shelton Gibson
8. Kyle Trout <> Gareon Conley
9. Darius West <> Malik Zaire
10. DeShone Kizer <> Jake Butt
I'm not seeing the massive difference that some people are claiming at the top.
FWIW 2014 has one 5* in Ohio (Lattimore). 2013 had 0 (Jalin was rated a 4*). The first 3* in 2013 was #20 Jaron Dukes; in 2014 it was #17 Ethan Wolfe.
Edit: Added Jalyn Holmes
Some Buckeye fans just can never be happy!
Kyle Berger at #299 but Satan wanted him badly is all you really need to know. That rankings are crap a lot of the time.
Let's not forget that rankings are to make money, not be an accurate reflection of how good a player really is.
Rivals - Expanding the Ohio rankings to 100
I realize they are just trying to be different but their state rankings are always just awful. Horton is WAY too high, as is Ballew. Then you have Marcelys Jones (who just blew up the camp circuit and has offers from everyone) at #24 behind Krok, Burns, and Richardson...only OL you could argue to be higher than Jones is MAYBE Trout and Byrne. I could go on for awhile but that is just a pathetic attempt. And my top 20 would be:
1. Marshon Lattimore
2. Dante Booker
3. Kyle Berger
4. Michael Ferns
5. Marcelys Jones
6. Jimmy Byrne
7. Parris Campell
8. Kyle Trout
9. Erik Smith
10. Deshone Kizer
11. Derek Kief
12. Sam Hubbard
13. Darius West
14. Dariean Watkins
15. Joe Henderson
16. Daniel Cage
17. Josh Krok
18. Chris Frey
19. Nick Richardson
20. Tegray Scales
Palm Beach Post - FOOTBALL RECRUITING: THE FIRST CLASS OF 2014 BIG BOARD RANKINGS
My first observation is that I hope this list can start to silence people who think that urban cant keep the top Ohio talent in state. Looking at the top 25, elite Ohio talent, OSU is cleaning up with the best, and I'm glad these same guys have been proving it at camps around the country as well showing Ohio kids are as good as any other.
Also, what happened to Davonte James? I thought at one time he was a top 10 in the state kid, and now it seems like he's fallen off into the category of lower tier big 10 and MAC school lists.
Updated 247 Rankings
#16 Dante Booker +73
#46 Jamarco Jones -3
#68 Jalyn Holmes -27
#80 Damon Webb +17
#94 Kyle Berger +46
#106 Marcelys Jones -10
#119 Paris Campbell +11
#212 Terry McLaurin +227
#219 Sam Hubbard +6
#245 Kyle Trout -44
#12 Joe Mixon +25
#14 Tony Brown +1
#15 Raekwon McMillan -1
#17 Damian Prince -1
#25 Curtis Samuel +57
#28 Thomas Holley +45
#34 Marshon Lattimore <>
#37 Solomon Thomas +5
#71 Jamal Adams +8
#99 Brandon Harris -1
#133 Saed Blacknall -14
#135 Demetrious Knox -25
#146 Derek Barnett +102
#155 Johnnie Dixon -56
#180 Mike Gesicki +752
#201 Poona Ford -4
#207 Trevion Thompson -126
#243 Myles Autry -60
Honestly, this is far and away the best list I have seen this year. The Holmes drop is puzzling and I think Webb is a tad low, but really no major objections. Really comprehensive and well put together.
McLaurin and Gesicki opening eyes...geez.
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