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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

Discussion in 'College Football' started by Mike80, Jul 26, 2007.


Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  1. Boston College

    29 vote(s)
  2. Cincinnati

    17 vote(s)
  3. Connecticut

    6 vote(s)
  4. Duke

    17 vote(s)
  5. Georgia Tech

    50 vote(s)
  6. Kansas

    43 vote(s)
  7. Maryland

    66 vote(s)
  8. Missouri

    91 vote(s)
  9. North Carolina

    27 vote(s)
  10. Notre Dame

    195 vote(s)
  11. Oklahoma

    72 vote(s)
  12. Pittsburgh

    41 vote(s)
  13. Rutgers

    38 vote(s)
  14. Syracuse

    17 vote(s)
  15. Texas

    118 vote(s)
  16. Vanderbilt

    13 vote(s)
  17. Virginia

    38 vote(s)
  18. Virginia Tech

    58 vote(s)
  19. Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    24 vote(s)
  20. Add some other school(s) not listed

    14 vote(s)
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. broken24

    broken24 Rookie

    28-25= 3 days
    A week = 7 days
    about a week = ?

    While ND canceling the 2018 and 19 games is old news the 15-17 was semi-new. The point I was making is that ND is actually clearing their schedule to play 5 games vs. the ACC in 2015. They have 4 on it now and needed to cancel 1 team to add 1 ACC. Same with 2016. 2017-19 they hardly have any games scheduled.

    So, ND is then serious about semi-joining the ACC in football.
  2. MU-Buck

    MU-Buck Newbie

    Back to B1G expansion... IF conference's feel the need to move to 16 Universities, I would honestly love to add the University of Toronto. They would be bad at first, but I really think they would get VERY competitive VERY quickly! Plus, their academics are second to none!

    They would immediately pull all the best Canadian talent (80-90% at worst) in football and basketball, and the market (a lot of Canada) they bring would add a large financial boost to the conference. Once hockey is added to the B1G as a conference sport, can you imagine the following the B1G would get in hockey as UofT strives for a frozen four berth?

    Toronto's a great city, and they already have an indoor football stadium that hosts close to 60,000 (I think).

    I'm sure they've been mentioned in this thread already, but didn't really feel like fishing through all of the pages... Anyone else have any opinions on the University of Toronto as the 16th member of the B1G (obviously, definitely not as worthy as Nebraska or Penn State as a stand alone offer).
  3. Mrstickball

    Mrstickball Sophmore

    They've been mentioned a few times here, I think. I think it'd be a great idea, but would be a huge reach for the B1G. However, it would certainly be worth it if any legal hurdles could be cleared (any issues with playing cross-country football games?).
  4. Mike80

    Mike80 Pretentious Dickhole

    As I said, welcome to the party. It had already been kicked around for nearly 4 days by the time you even posted it.
  5. Muck

    Muck Enjoy Every Sandwich Staff Member

    My post on 12-19-09.

    And your post on 2-18-10.

    Heh, while grabbing those I stumbled across my early tongue in cheek hyper conference proposal.
  6. scarletmike

    scarletmike Researching the Magic!

    Are you referring to the Rogers Centre? If so, the University doesn't play there, and their actual football stadium seats 5,000. Their stadium used to seat upwards of 20,000 when it also served as a home to a Canadian international soccer team as well as others, but after they left, there wasn't enough draw so it was reduced to what it is now. If they could be slotted into Rogers Centre, then that would certainly be ideal, otherwise they have a serious facilities issue.
  7. Muck

    Muck Enjoy Every Sandwich Staff Member

    One idea I've toyed with in my head is to create a B1G associated conference for schools that aren't quite ready for acceptance to the conference but with some time & growth could eventually slot once they meet certain benchmarks.

    In addition to Toronto you could add schools like UMass, UConn, Buffalo & Delaware. That would allow the conference to actually groom future members instead of just relying on luck.

    In addition to the candidate schools you could round out the conference with programs with strong fan support that will likely never make the grade as B1G members but would be happy with a well managed home and access to the BTN. Appalachian State & ECU come to mind as prime candidates for long term members of the B1GJr.
  8. BuckTwenty

    BuckTwenty Parties with Pete Johnson's Beard

    In essence, I think that's pretty much what mid-major conferences are. If Toronto really wanted to be considered, they would have to work their way up like any other school. Start in D-1AA (or lower), move up to D-1A in the MAC, Conference USA, etc, then if they pan out, they'll get picked up by a BCS conference.

    For instance, a few years ago, Simon Fraser University became the first Canadian school to get accepted into the NCAA. I believe they are a part of Div II. Thus, if Toronto wanted to be a part of the NCAA, you gotta think they would go a similar route.
  9. scarletmike

    scarletmike Researching the Magic!

    That is certainly a very interesting idea, and I like the approach. It broadens the BTN's footprint and appeal, but could create a crowding issue in terms of programming. With that many schools and subsequent sports fighting for airtime, you could run into an issue. While typically "dead" times like Thursday or Friday nights could be filled in that manner, a lot of those schools and their typical opponents still stick to a similar schedule as the larger schools. Obviously the B1G schools get the preference, but then would it really be as big of a draw for those smaller schools that likely wouldn't have as large an impact on increasing the network's bottom line?
  10. Mrstickball

    Mrstickball Sophmore

    Couldn't BTN push for more games through the week? AFAIK, Ohio State and Wisconsin have played OOC opponents on opening Thursday. You'd think that they could make a play or two for it - schedule the weekday games just after their bye week, so they get a few extra days to prepare for their regular Saturday opponent.
  11. MU-Buck

    MU-Buck Newbie

    Haha, thanks.... That seems like something I would say :biggrin:

    And yes, I was talking about the Rogers Center for their stadium. No construction costs for a really nice facility that would only have to be rented 4-8 times a year (4 in conference games and then 0-4 out of conference games).

    I don't really like the idea of a B1G jr... If a university is willing to commit to a winning program, there's no reason they can't get it, as long as the B1G views them worthy. That goes for Rutgers, Maryland, Toronto, etc.
  12. MaxBuck

    MaxBuck 2014 National Champions!

    Interesting concept: B1G-in-waiting. UMass, UConn, Toronto, Rutgers, another 4 chosen with appropriate criteria.
  13. DaveyBoy

    DaveyBoy Our Honor Defend

    As long as ND is in the ACC or headed there, Maryland isn't leaving.....even if the BIG begged it to.

  14. MaxBuck

    MaxBuck 2014 National Champions!

    Interesting ratings from The Times (of London) regarding world universities. Note that, including Chicago at 10, ten B1G schools rank in the top 100.

    10 Chicago
    19 Northwestern
    20 Michigan
    31 Wisconsin
    33 Illinois
    47 Minnesota
    53 Ohio State
    61 Penn State
    69 Purdue
    94 Michigan State (tied with Notre Dame)

    Indiana was ranked 134 and Iowa 169 by The Times; Nebraska is not among the top 400. (Oklahoma is in the 350-400 tier.)

    Surprising (high) to me:

    UCLA at 13, University of Washington at 24, UC Santa Barbara at 35

    Surprising (low):

    Rice at 75, Case Western at 104, Vanderbilt at 106, Dartmouth at 124

    Full rankings at The Times Higher Education World University Rankings
  15. Woody1968

    Woody1968 Agent Provocateur

    Not to nitpick, but Dartmouth isn't a University.

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