Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[RugbyBuck]

FWIW, UNC/UVA grab a lot of the Atlanta tv market. While I'd love to have GT on board, there are a ton of Tarheel/Cav alums in/around Atlanta. They all move here after graduation.

 

[Hodgepodge]

So they've left Conference USA to join... Conference WTF.

FIFY

 

[VBSJ]

Since they're either go to court or mediation, how low does Maryland negotiate the exit fee to?

The lawsuit filed Tuesday was for about $53 million. Incredible the exit fee went from $10 million to $50 million in less than a year.

 

[Muck]

Since they're either go to court or mediation, how low does Maryland negotiate the exit fee to?

The lawsuit filed Tuesday was for about $53 million. Incredible the exit fee went from $10 million to $50 million in less than a year.

Maryland had originally agreed to raising the fee to $20M so I would be surprised if the final amount were less than that. $20-$30M range is my guess.

 

[exhawg]

Since they're either go to court or mediation, how low does Maryland negotiate the exit fee to?

The lawsuit filed Tuesday was for about $53 million. Incredible the exit fee went from $10 million to $50 million in less than a year.

It will be interesting to see if them voting no on the increase changes anything.

 

[Dryden]

Loh's point of contention was that there was nothing formal drafted re: the increase from $20m to $50m or a date written in contract for when it would take effect. Loh has characterized the fee increase as a conference call amongst ACC members, a 10-2 vote in favor of, and with a majority vote passing the $50m fee went into effect immediately.

There was an article detailing this at WashingtonPost.com, but it's past the free cut-off date and is now premium.

Between this and the shitty TV deal Swofford negotiated that essentially holds every member hostage until 2027, it makes sense why Maryland was looking for an exit sign, any exit sign to anywhere, ASAP. The University wanted out before the forfeited anymore TV dollars or had that $50m exit-fee in an ACC membership manual next year.

 

[VBSJ]

Maryland had originally agreed to raising the fee to $20M so I would be surprised if the final amount were less than that. $20-$30M range is my guess.

That's what I'm trying to figure out, because if it's $20m and you're Florida State or Clemson, leave the ACC immediately.

Both Clemson and FSU will eventually be making half of what in-state SEC schools will be making from TV. Same with Georgia Tech.

So that's why I'm wondering if everyone's just waiting to see what Maryland pays.

 

[MaxBuck]

Since they're either go to court or mediation, how low does Maryland negotiate the exit fee to?

The lawsuit filed Tuesday was for about $53 million. Incredible the exit fee went from $10 million to $50 million in less than a year.

It will be interesting to see whether the ACC is able to hold Maryland liable to pay a fee it never actually agreed to. Unless UM's continued participation in ACC activities was regarded as effective agreement with contract terms (a position I find hard to swallow from a contract perspective), it seems to me Maryland has an excellent position from which to claim coercion by the ACC and therefore relief from most of the "liquidated damages" (which is all these exit fees amount to).

 

[VBSJ]

It's comical that the $53 million lawsuit is three times the ACC's annual operating budget.

I hope the Big Ten is at least a sounding board or assistant counsel to Maryland, because they might get ganged up on.

 

[Muck]

So that's why I'm wondering if everyone's just waiting to see what Maryland pays.

That is my thought as well. Talks are going on through back channels but we won't see anything concrete until schools have a more concrete number for the Maryland exit fees.

 

[muffler dragon]

That is my thought as well. Talks are going on through back channels but we won't see anything concrete until schools have a more concrete number for the Maryland exit fees.

Doesn't this beg the consideration that IF more schools left at the same time, THEN the ACC would have less of an argument for collection of such an exorbitant amount?

 

[Muck]

Doesn't this beg the consideration that IF more schools left at the same time, THEN the ACC would have less of an argument for collection of such an exorbitant amount?

Probably but then again it might also result in a TI lawsuit against the B1G (or whoever). I would think that the next piece to move is most likely FSU since they were the other school to vote against the fees, but that would also require them having a guaranteed spot to land.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

There's a lesson to be learned in the destruction of the ACC. If you choose willingly and of your own volition to give sanctuary to the domers, you will be dealt with....harshly. Siege will be laid to your castle. Your people will starve. Your fields will be burned. Your slaves will be killed. Your children sold into perpetual slavery. You will be drawn and quartered and your entrails will be brought back to Chicago to decorate the Michigan Avenue bridge. The generations will echo with the howling lamentations of your women. No one will remember your name.

It's too late for the ACC, for their fate is sealed and their time is at hand. Other conferences listen up: don't give sanctuary to the domers.

 

[kinch]

It seems too many people are missing the big issue here. This issue leads to a determination of either the failure of Delaney or the prophecy of what is to come.

Football is becoming entirely too difficult to watch. Crimsons have become magentas, and scarlets have become reds. What team are we cheering for? Colors have receded to their most primary tendencies. In adding Maryland and Rutgers, Ohio State has seen its prominence further diluted by the reds of the world, confusing all of us who are confused by things.

Reducing maize to yellow (as opposed to WTF), along with gold, and crimson to red and so forth, we have currently the following distribution of B1G colors:

The colors in the chart do not relate to colors. They relate to words. This is a thinking man's exercise.

As can be clearly seen above, red, being purple, is way too prominent now with the additions of the new schools. However, two common colors, being green and purple, or bluish and purplish respectively, are underrepresented. orange, or orange, is also lacking in the B1G, but is also ugly.

Either Delaney failed or we can foresee from the chart what new schools will join the B1G.

I am guessing that we will soon see schools added that will fill the color gaps. I am compiling a breakdown of all colors of all teams and of their players to better determine who our new members will be.

 

[BuckeyeSoldier]

I am guessing that we will soon see schools added that will fill the color gaps. I am compiling a breakdown of all colors of all teams and of their players to better determine who our new members will be.

I think there is something very wrong with you.