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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

Discussion in 'College Football' started by Mike80, Jul 26, 2007.


Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  1. Boston College

    29 vote(s)
  2. Cincinnati

    17 vote(s)
  3. Connecticut

    6 vote(s)
  4. Duke

    17 vote(s)
  5. Georgia Tech

    50 vote(s)
  6. Kansas

    43 vote(s)
  7. Maryland

    66 vote(s)
  8. Missouri

    91 vote(s)
  9. North Carolina

    27 vote(s)
  10. Notre Dame

    195 vote(s)
  11. Oklahoma

    72 vote(s)
  12. Pittsburgh

    41 vote(s)
  13. Rutgers

    38 vote(s)
  14. Syracuse

    17 vote(s)
  15. Texas

    118 vote(s)
  16. Vanderbilt

    13 vote(s)
  17. Virginia

    38 vote(s)
  18. Virginia Tech

    58 vote(s)
  19. Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    24 vote(s)
  20. Add some other school(s) not listed

    14 vote(s)
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member

    :lol: I've never seen "financially" spelled like that. Oh well, when in doubt sound it out...
  2. darbypitcher22

    darbypitcher22 Sophmore

    I'd love to see Georgia Tech and the Seminoles. That'd be a nice 16.
  3. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    they used to be an all women's school.....so yeah. it's worse.
  4. Mrstickball

    Mrstickball Sophmore

    FWIW, here's a comparison of the prospective schools in regards to academics/university/FB rankings:

    USNWR Top College Rankings:

    Virginia - #24
    UNC - #30
    Boston College - #31
    Georgia Tech - #36
    Maryland - #58
    Rutgers - #68
    Va. Tech - #72
    Florida State - #97
    Nebraska - #101

    Student Size:

    Rutgers - 57,000
    Florida State - 42,000
    Maryland - 38,000
    Va. Tech - 31,000
    UNC - 29,000
    Nebraska - 26,000
    Virginia - 21,000
    Georgia Tech - 20,000
    Boston College - 15,000


    Virginia - $5,240M
    UNC - $2,220M
    Boston College - $1,900M
    Georgia Tech - $1,262M
    Nebraska - $1,240M
    Maryland - $792M
    Rutgers -$700M
    Va. Tech - $600M
    Florida State - $525M

    Stadium Size:

    Florida State - 82,000
    Nebraska - 81,000
    Va. Tech - 66,000
    UNC - 63,000
    Georgia Tech - 55,000
    Virginia - 54,000
    Maryland - 54,000
    Rutgers - 52,000
    Boston College - 44,500

    Football W/L Record for Past 30yrs:

    Nebraska - 78%
    Florida State - 75%
    Va. Tech - 68%
    Boston College - 57%
    Virginia - 56%
    Georgia Tech - 55%
    UNC - 52%
    Maryland - 49%
    Rutgers - 43%

    Assuming these things were evenly weighted, you'd get:

    #1 - UNC, Virginia
    #2 - Florida State
    #3 - Nebraska
    #4 - Virginia Tech
    #5 - Georgia Tech
    #6 - Boston College
    #7 - Maryland
    #8 - Rutgers

    The other two metrics I didn't add were TV sets (or population within a set distance from the university), and basketball record by # of tourney appearances or another such metric (say sweet sixteens).

    From the list, UNC and Virgina are well above everyone else, placing the 4th on average. Of course, it also shows that Maryland and Rutgers were the two worst to go after, which suggests media markets probably play a very large part of the argument. If that's the case, then you'd think that metro areas that are pulled by Georgia Tech and Virginia are very important.

    BUCKYLE Moderater

    $5,240 million? a.k.a. 5.24 billion? Am I reading that right? Fuck math.
  6. Mrstickball

    Mrstickball Sophmore

    Right. I wanted to use the same base numbers so people wouldn't confuse million and billion ;-)
  7. Muck

    Muck Enjoy Every Sandwich Staff Member

    FSU was tied at #94 with a current AAU member on the internal ranking list that was used when Nebraska went up for review. Nebraska was #109.

    There was one another AAU school below FSU at #105. That was rumored to be Syracuse who left the AAU voluntarily around the same time as Nebraska was up for review.

    The two most recent AAU additions; Georgia Tech & Boston U. were #31 & #37 on the AAU list. Thirty two other non-AAU schools (not including Georgia Tech & BU) were ranked higher than FSU.

    The University of Miami was at #59 behind nine other non-members.

    Some of the various schools discussed on my composite ranking:

    4 Duke 1391.0755
    10 North Carolina 1272.3637
    15 Georgia Tech 1179.6399
    18 Virginia 1128.4918
    20 Pittsburgh 1104.9044
    27 Notre Dame 1017.9417
    34 Miami (FL) 867.0165
    36 NC St. 820.1705
    38 Virginia Tech 781.5183
    41 Connecticut 724.0432
    45 Florida St. 714.1528
    48 Kansas 642.6922
    49 Boston College 637.2450
    57 Syracuse 563.0363

    65 Nebraska 521.5648
  8. Bucky32

    Bucky32 Senior

    Gone from the public eye? He's an AD that was addressing the school's athletic board.
  9. Muck

    Muck Enjoy Every Sandwich Staff Member

    To be fair Barry has run off at the mouth multiple times about expansion over the past few years. People just don't remember when he says something goofy compared to someone like Gee because Alvarez quotes don't get repeated endlessly on ESPN.
  10. Bucky32

    Bucky32 Senior

    I'm not saying he doesn't, but to state he's been out of the public eye for years is a bit of a head-scratcher when he's an AD of a Big Ten school.
  11. Muck

    Muck Enjoy Every Sandwich Staff Member

    I should have quoted alex as well as I was also explaining that it isn't just 'NOW'.
  12. Mrstickball

    Mrstickball Sophmore

    Just curious - how did you weight your rankings? Having said that, its interesting that Nebraska is so low on your list.
  13. Muck

    Muck Enjoy Every Sandwich Staff Member

    I used 17 different university rankings all were given equal weight and normalized to a 100pt scale. The exception being the ACTA, CWUR & IPRHEI which were normalized to a 50pt scale. AAU members were given a flat bonus of 10pts.

    ACTA, ARWU, CMUP, CWUR, Forbes, HEEACT, IPRHEI, Leiden, NRC, Parchment, QS, RPI, SIR, THE, URAP, USN&WR, & Washington Monthly

    The entire list can be found here.
    Steve19 likes this.
  14. JBaney45

    JBaney45 Junior

    I'd love to see the Noles on board..have my doubts but crazier things have happened during this whole realignment bit.
  15. Muck

    Muck Enjoy Every Sandwich Staff Member

    Newest 'shine induced rantings from the Dude.


    B1G will announce it's going to 18 after the bowls:

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