Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by Mike80, Jul 26, 2007.
And that is my point. It is reduced to one sentence, of secondary importance. It is not going to be the tail that wags the dog. But, it is part of our culture and it is important enough to be considered a part of the University's vision for the future. Conference expansion will be considered in that context.
Always remember Woody's attitude toward academics and the way that they treated one of the best coaches in college basketball, Fred Taylor. At the end of the day, the core values will drive big decisions in universities, which are places in which people fight over whose desk is bigger.
No, they should be caring about athletics, these are first and foremost ATHLETIC relationships. A big part of the success of Ohio State athletics is being a part of an elite athletic conference.
Yes, the good of our academic programs is a far greater consideration, but the success of those programs has little to absolutely nothing to do with the fucking CIC. That is the disconnect with the whole argument, the CIC isn't a pimple on the ass of any of the Big Ten school's academic bodies.
Is the importance of the CIC overstated at times? Absolutely. Do, however, the Big Ten Presidents take the role of the CIC both in reality and--equally important--in public relations very seriously? Also, absolutely. Image and perception are important to the conference. The Corn dealt the Big Ten a blow academically (if only in image and perception) when they were flushed out of the AAU. I just can't see the Presidents taking in FSU when UVA and UNC AND Georgia Tech are all still on the market. The Corn at least were in the AAU when they were accepted. To bring in FSU is to walk away from any pretense that there is an academic standard for Big Ten membership whatsoever, and that's a step that I believe the Big Ten Presidents will never take regardless of cable boxes and five star recruits.
ORD makes a great point.
and with schools like these and others still being a potential member...
Not that it's just FSU but if membership really has it's privilege$ then membership probably needs criteria.
I move that one of the criteria be that your head footall coach, AD and University President don't cover up child rape for over a decade.
Only if it can be implemented retroactively
Which is why Tejas would still be the gem. Brings in both football AND a top research university. Texas, tOSU and TSUN are of the very few which bring what they bring to the table in University and athletic prowess. I'm struggling for others at the same level in football.
The Big 12 is stable and will be one of the big 4..that ship sailed.
I guess that depends on whether we plan to go to 16 or 20
16 you can probably survive with G-Tech/UNC
20 You really need to throw a football power in there, preferably 2 (ideally ND would cave if you are looking at conferences that big).
Maybe... but the B12 is also an effete 10-team conference, and the Longhorn network is not the amazing success they thought it would be...
If we're going to 20 and Texas is on the table could it get much better than:
I submit that that would be the dream scenario with the possible exclusion of Florida State for a school with a little more academic clout.
If Texas is on the table I feel like that would bring ND back into play as well, FWIW, especially if the other cards drop and the ACC is destroyed as expected. I also think that Texas and Notre Dame would be the only two schools worth going to 20 for, otherwise just stay at 18 with the first three and Florida State or whoever else.
No, it coudn't IMHO. As they used to say back in the early 90s... I would fall out over the above scenario.
What do you mean "they" people? :tic:
That would be brilliant, I just don't see Texas wanting to or being able to leave without any of their comrades, not while they are the kings of the castle in their current setup.
That would be the dream scenario. Only way it would get better than that is if U of Florida were in play instead of Florida State... and UF isn't going anywhere else... ever.
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