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Cleveland Browns (2012 season)

Discussion in 'Professional Football' started by Bucklion, Feb 1, 2012.

  1. Bleed S & G

    Bleed S & G Taking Crazy Pills

    Saban.. Mel Tucker.. Jim Tressel.. David Shaw.. Chip Kelley (only after reading all this crap here)

    So, because I wouldn't mind those guys - none of those will happen..

    The guy who, in my IMO, would be a helluva NFL coach:

    Jim Tomsula
  2. 3074326

    3074326 Urban Legend

    Let's talk about Kelly's defenses instead of his offenses. That seems like a more relevant and worthy discussion..

    I think a Greg Roman + Alex Smith combo would be a nice change. Alex Smith is not a franchise QB, but he's good enough to run the offense until the team improves everywhere else. Smith already knows Roman's offense as well.
  3. BayBuck

    BayBuck Buckeyes are best

  4. Jake

    Jake loves butterscotch jellybeans

    Head coach: Jim Tressel
    Offensive coordinator: Jim Bollman
    Defensive coordinator: Luke Fickell
    Quarterback: Troy Smith

    :biggrin:
    Mac likes this.
  5. Bleed S & G

    Bleed S & G Taking Crazy Pills

    :lol:

    I did pick up Troy last night off the FA while starting a new Madden franchise. He's younger than Weeden :(
  6. BuckBackHome

    BuckBackHome Wolverine is largest member of weasel family

    You had me at Bollman. You had me at Bollman!
  7. exhawg

    exhawg Self Mythologizing Monster

    It sounds like they are holding off on hiring the GM mainly because they are looking at big names that will want more control over the roster and draft.
  8. LitlBuck

    LitlBuck I Don't Want Any Trouble

    Ray Horton was interviewed today so the Rooney has been met. Kelly set for Friday.
    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/01/oregon_coach_chip_kelly_i_dont.html
  9. LitlBuck

    LitlBuck I Don't Want Any Trouble

    The way I understand the hierarchy of the Banner way of running a football operation is that the coach has full control over the 53 man roster and the GM as input into the draft but so does Banner and the coach. I don't think that the GM as a whole lot of control in this type of organization. It's almost like they are hiring a coach and then the coach is going to tell them who he would like as a GM.
  10. NFBuck

    NFBuck Gonzo Weatherman™

    I'll welcome any grief coming my way for this, but if hairlice is available in round 3 or 4, I wouldn't mind to take a chance on him. I think he actually showed some decent ability to play RB yesterday (ended up with 100 yards on 23 carries against one of the best run defenses in the country basically playing TB). Would make a nice change-of-pace guy for Richardson, IMO. Could also make a very good slot guy in a Chip Kelly offense.
  11. 3074326

    3074326 Urban Legend

    He's a fantastic playmaker. People who wouldn't want their team to take a chance on him are just being stubborn.
  12. Bucklion

    Bucklion Throwback Staff Member

    All depends on what they could use him for. I see him as kind of a Dexter McCluster type, and KC has never really utilized him very well, but I think he could be a good NFL player with the right coaches and scheme. But if the team had Little, Gordon, Benjamin, Cameron, and Hairlace on the field at the same time, it could certainly open some things up...if a QB could get any of them the ball, that is. I wouldn't want to burn anything higher than a 4 because I think we have too many needs on defense at 1 and 3, but a flier on a guy who might make some plays wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. The offense wouldn't be built around him, he would be a complement guy, which he might be successful at.
  13. Buckeneye

    Buckeneye The Gun People


    Then do enlighten us, good sir.


    "Basic zone run plays" is so vague. Are you talking about shotgun hand-offs with zone blocking? In which case outside zone plays have the RB's reading point starting at the tackle on the front side of the play.

    Having a shotgun based offense with a dual threat QB and NOT utilizing a read or double read even in run/pass options is counter productive unless otherwise trying to protect the QB.

    We could get into what Ohio State does with Braxton on the counter-trey, QB misdirection and QB power - that's without a read.


    So just for the sake of playing along - I'll watch the Fiesta Bowl with my little notepad and do the tally. I encourage anyone else to join in on that.


    edit: 5th rounder for hairlace and a 6th or 7th for Boren sounds like a good back-end draft to me.

    double edit: At least with Chip (and lets pretend with draft Robinson) you know for a fact at least him and Cribbs (if he stays) wouldn't be under utilized.
  14. jwinslow

    jwinslow You know... not... GOOD! Staff Member

    I am guessing that chip prefers qbs that can actually make reads
  15. jlb1705

    jlb1705 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Staff Member Bookie

    I'll bite. I think Day 2 is way too high for somebody like Robinson. I'm aware that's where he'll probably be drafted, but I don't want the Browns to be the ones to do it. There are good teams that already possess the all-around depth to take a chance on somebody like him at WR/RB in a limited role. The Browns are not one of them in my IMO.

    He's Josh Cribbs, but 20 lbs. lighter and without the toughness, durability or capability of contributing on special teams.

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