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Cleveland Browns (2013 Season)

Discussion in 'Professional Football' started by NFBuck, Jan 11, 2013.

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  1. exhawg

    exhawg Self Mythologizing Monster

    Just had another thought if they could pull the trade down to pick up the 2nd round pick and fill OLB or CB with a FA. How awesome would the OL be if they could somehow get Chance Warmack in the first round? Thomas, Warmack, Mack, a sack of potatoes, and Schwartz would be the best OL in the NFL.
  2. Patrick Bateman

    Patrick Bateman Made Man

    Trading down for Warmack is plausible...Typically guards don't go in the top 10...They normally go in the 15 to 25 range....if we fill our need at CB in free agency then I am on board with trading down and taking warmack if we can get back in the second round in doing so....that being said we would have to also fill our pass rushing LB need via free agency as well...Should be interesting to see the least...
  3. Buckeneye

    Buckeneye The Gun People

    While I would love to see Warmack. I'm sold on milliner at this
    Point. Especially considering he'd be the BPA for a crucial need.
    So if we're offered a trade down and he's on the board come #6,
    Then I'm taking him and not thinking twice.

    I love Simon for the Buckeye he is, but I can't see him making
    Meaningful impact on this defense. I'll take Milliner, Sanders Commings,
    Stoney & Boren. If you did that 1st, 3rd, 4th & 5th - I'd do fucking backflips
    Down the street.
  4. exhawg

    exhawg Self Mythologizing Monster

    I like it, but I think Boren will be there in the 6th so they could use that pick on a high risk/high reward guy like Mathieu or a QB if there is someone they like.

    Of course if the Browns draft plays out anything like it usually does they will draft a bunch of guys I've never heard of that have never been mentioned in this thread.
  5. Buckeneye

    Buckeneye The Gun People

    True. If Matheiu sinks to the 5th I'd jump at him.
    My gut says he'll go 4th.


    And I'm hoping we take a peak at Sam Shields or DRC.
  6. LitlBuck

    LitlBuck I Don't Want Any Trouble

    I will be very disappointed, as will many Browns fans, if they only use $20 mil of their cap space. I know that they don't have to use the entire close to $50 mil until 2016 but all contracts are not guaranteed money so certain guys will be released over the next 3 years which will just free up money unless I do not understand the CBA and how it works with regard to the cap.

    I understand that they want to build through the draft but if they can find some quality free agents that are only 26-27 years old I would have no problems in signing them or even signing one or two guys a little bit older.

    Haslam has talked out of both sides of his mouth with regards to how he wants to make this team competitive quickly. He cannot do that just by drafting players. He needs to tell his boys that they need to find some quality free agents and get this team better quickly or he is going to start losing his fan base just like Lerner.
  7. tsteele316

    tsteele316 Mr. Such and Such

    the browns aren't going to blow their whole cap in this free agent class. they are going to selective sign guys and retain enough cap to sign certain guys to extensions. what they won't do is get themselves into a nyj type spot where they have to shed $20 million just to get under the cap and sign draft picks, let alone free agents.

    i don't see how haslam has talked out of both sides of his mouth. he wants to be competitive quickly, but they aren't going to shoot their wad like fools in FA.
  8. stowfan

    stowfan Senior

  9. LitlBuck

    LitlBuck I Don't Want Any Trouble

    I did not say to spend it all. I am just saying that $20 mil is a little low compared to what they have available. They have plenty of money to extend contracts. The only guys worth extending this year might be Ward and Haden. Even you said that there was no reason to extend Mack this year because centers are pretty easy to come by.

    My point was that over the next 3-4 years guys will be cut by the Browns that will free up more money and everything has to be spent within the next four years or you will lose it. If they don't spend between 25-30 mil this year on free agents, I will be very disappointed.

    Haslam has said build through the draft but yet he wants to make this team competitive. You cannot do that just by building through the draft year after year. If he wants to lose his fan base, he will try to build through the draft the next two years and then they will be selecting in the top 5 every year.
  10. tsteele316

    tsteele316 Mr. Such and Such

    first, cleveland doesn't have a real $40+ million to spend in cap. a portion of that is cap rollover, which is phantom money. as of now, they have about $84-$85 million tied up in salaries for next year. They have around $6 million in dead money which is on the books for next year. That gives them around $30 million in real money for next season. They aren't going to spend $25 million in free agency, nor should they. why there is this notion of building through the draft and being competitive quickly being mutually exclusive, I don't know. Quite frankly, the coaching staff alone should enhance this team's win total without any real improvements to the roster.
  11. exhawg

    exhawg Self Mythologizing Monster

    I agree with this. I think a couple key FA's and a strong draft along with the better coaching could put the Browns in a position to challenge for the AFC North.

    Of course that's a lot of what ifs for it to actually happen, but the aspect that I'm least worried about is the coaching. I think they hit a home run with the new coaching staff.
  12. AKAK

    AKAK Schwarze Kapelle Moderator Bookie

    So, long story short, of Litl's 50 million, they probably will spend 25 million of that.
  13. Bucklion

    Bucklion Throwback Moderator

    Every mock draft I've seen (save one dude smoking silly weed who has us taking the WR from Tennessee at 6) has either Milliner, Jones, Moore from A&M, or Mingo (which I don't think will happen). So it appears everyone thinks defense, which is good. Whatever they don't draft high, they should try and sign somebody good. So, a corner or a rusher. Other than that, I don't see a reason to break the bank with any FAs.
  14. tsteele316

    tsteele316 Mr. Such and Such

    long story short, they have closer to $30 million in real money to spend, and will leave some cap room to sign guys like haden and ward to extensions. So, I would guess that they won't spend more than $15 million or so on FA's. Sign a cb, maybe an OLB. trying to sign a FS in this market is likely going to be cost prohibitive. maybe they sign a guard, maybe not.

    the thing of it is, without bringing up phil dawson, outside of maybe sheldon brown, there is no FA from the browns roster that is actually creating a hole.
  15. AKAK

    AKAK Schwarze Kapelle Moderator Bookie

    No, I get it. Point is... starting at the 50 million number.. if they spend 5 or your 30, they're at 25.
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