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Co-OC / QB Coach Tom Herman (official thread)

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by wadc45, Dec 8, 2011.

  1. OneBuckeye

    OneBuckeye Junior

    I agree with everyone's assessment. We needed to line up and establish Hyde. He was getting good runs in a all day. I have no idea what was going on with the passing game, if someone has any good analysis on this please provide. Iirc the only passing that worked was the rollout game. Zach and Tom have work to do.
  2. Bestbuck36

    Bestbuck36 Urban Renewal Project

    Quick hitters to Devin Smith were there all day. We were also unlucky on one brilliant pass play earlier in the game when the sun got Stoney. There were some plays there guys just didnt make them. Seems like Herman got pretty conservative near the end knowing it was going to be a slugfest. Not running Hyde is the only real mistake. Let's hope he doesnt make it again.
  3. coryhulbert

    coryhulbert Freshman

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  4. kippy1040

    kippy1040 Junior

    It seems alot of people are putting the blame on Herman for the poor performance against wisconsin. I have to think differently. The game
    whisky played against Indiana was pretty impressive to me. They had
    to keep that momentum up against the upcoming game against us. And it appeared that they were suceeding for awhile but we had some critical calls that were made at times that we really needed them. I felt we were moving
    the ball well in the 1st quarter but when the sun got in stony's eyes ... well that was a huge play if he could have held on.

    Maybe herman had the right calls and maybe Braxton could not see them. And even coach questioned his play calling along with Herman, in the presser on monday. So i believe we have to give herman the benefit of the doubt here and hope that the Michigan game can become his saving grace. I like the kid alot......... and who knows maybe we will not have him around, the way his name is being thrown around for future head coaching jobs coming up.
  5. redguard117

    redguard117 Junior

    Pretty sure Gardner was never interested in Ohio State, and Tressel knew this.
  6. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Moderator

    Isn't Gardner the kid that was begging for an OSU offer? I might be thinking of somebody else.
  7. OneBuckeye

    OneBuckeye Junior


    I thought he was the one that burned his offer letter.
  8. OneBuckeye

    OneBuckeye Junior

    http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2012/11/devin_gardner_once_burned_an_o.html

  9. sparcboxbuck

    sparcboxbuck What happened to my ¤cash?

    So for those of you with greater football minds than mine, wasn't Wisky the first to use a safety to spy on Brax? Usually it's a LB who is going to be closer to the line?

    That said, if they are bringing an extra safety up, the pass has to be a bit more available to us.

    Either way, I hope that they spent some good time in the film room pointing out how to exploit the safety spy.

    Looking forward to see how they come out this week attacking the holes in the defense should be able to create.
  10. Merih

    Merih GO BUCKS!

    Wisky dropped the safety down hard after the play to take away Braxton's presnap read. We've been used to linebackers spying, and have done a great job with pulling linemen and other lead blockers wiping them out and letting Brax get to the second level.

    Dropping the safety post snap, IMO, confused our blocking assignments. Also made Braxton more tentative since the alley wasn't as clear as normal. Then Wisky did a great job forcing Braxton to stop his feet and then rally to the ball.

    Still won though :)
  11. OneBuckeye

    OneBuckeye Junior

    I think the issue was just not adjusting to the safety by running more flash screens and more direct runs with hyde (my takeaway from Ross Fulton's analysis on 11w). I think the two biggest issues were 1. Braxton not making the right reads. 2. Herman not realizing braxton was thouroughly confused and adjusting (simplifying?) accordingly.

    Somehow it looked like everything got fixed in a few plays in overtime.
  12. exhawg

    exhawg Self Mythologizing Monster

    Probably didn't want to give Wiscy time to adjust before OT. :p

    Everyone knows that OT tears are much sweeter.
  13. OneBuckeye

    OneBuckeye Junior

    I guess I shouldn't say everything got fixed in OT. Braxton's descision making was great on two plays as Ross describes below.


    http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2012/11/16445/osu-v-wisconsin-offensive-breakdown


  14. sflbuck

    sflbuck Sophmore

    Urban said on his call in show today that he was responsible for the lack of output on offense at Wisconsin. The way they were using their safety dictated that they needed to throw the ball more. But since they spent most all of the second half in Wisconsin territory, he did not want to throw that ball and decided to put the game on the defense to win.
  15. Buckskin86

    Buckskin86 Moderator Moderator

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fdDKFm7fww"]Tom Herman - YouTube[/ame]

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