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DE Joey Bosa (Def ROY, 3x Pro Bowl, Los Angeles Chargers)

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Bosa Jr. showed off his pop culture knowledge with a clever defense of his older brother.

"I will finish what you have started!"




The tweet is a quote from Kylo Ren, the villain in the recently released Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
I would say he was more like Big Daddy with a motor

that could play outside

I'm with Spiels on this one, top 2-3 best defensive player at OSU all time
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Yeah, i wasn't talking about skill sets, necessarily. Just his ability to disrupt an offense as an individual. I haven't seen a Buckeye defender have his kind of impact on the opposition since Katzenmoyer.
 
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Ok now that I've had some time to think here's the official rule.

http://www.afca.com/article/article.php?id=2342

RULES

Targeting and Initiating Contact With the Crown of the Helmet (Rule 9-1-3)

No player shall target and initiate contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul.

Targeting and Initiating Contact to Head or Neck Area of a Defenseless Player (Rule 9-1-4)

No player shall target and initiate contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, fist, elbow or shoulder. When in question, it is a foul. (Rule 2-27-14)

Note: Beginning in 2013, ejection from the game is a part of the penalty for violation of both Rule 9-1-3 and Rule 9-1-4.


KEY ELEMENTS

Target—to take aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with an apparent intent that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball.

Crown of the Helmet—the top portion of the helmet.

Contact to the head or neck area—not only with the helmet, but also with the forearm, fist, elbow, or shoulder—these can all lead to a foul.

Defenseless player—a player not in position to defend himself.

Examples (Rule 2-27-14):

  • A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass.
  • A receiver attempting to catch a pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier.
  • A kicker in the act of or just after kicking a ball, or during the kick or the return.
  • A kick returner attempting to catch or recover a kick.
  • A player on the ground.
  • A player obviously out of the play.
  • A player who receives a blind-side block.
  • A ball carrier already in the grasp of an opponent and whose forward progress has been stopped.
  • A quarterback any time after a change of possession.
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What Bosa did was as he was coming at Kizer he bent over and lowered his head causing contact to his lower chest and stomach with the frontal part of the top of his helmet just above the forehead area about where some helmets have that little insert looking thing. It seems pretty clear due to Bosa and the team's run in with the rules earlier in the year he bent over more to avoid any chance of going to the head or neck area. What he did wrong is he didn't raise his head or go to the side. First of all ignoring that raising his head in the position he is in is debatably worse for potential neck injury and he probably should have bent more at the knees to get lower more safely.

So it appears by letter of the law he broke 9-1-3 but there are few problems with this. First being an in-clarity of the rule whether or not he has to target thus hit with intent or just hit with the way the rule is worded. Second being that if they actually bothered to call 9-1-3 as any hit with the crown of the helmet you would be looking at probably at least 1 player thrown out per game until the players finally adjusted. Third if you are going to call something that way you need to start at the beginning of the season and let players adjust to the rules not suddenly call it in the last game of the season and expect people not to be upset. Finally is the ejection. The ejection I think we can all agree has nothing to do with defensive player safety but was introduced to severely punish and thereby diminish the phenomenon of head hunting. Thus leading to less head injuries and brutal hits\whiplash to the offensive players. Which in turn leads to the conclusion there was no danger to Kizer from the hit the only danger was to Bosa. Thus I feel if they are going to continue to call it this way they either need to get consistent. Or reintroduce spearing as a penalty and make spearing which is not to the head or neck area a 15 yard penalty without ejection. Also they need to call it on both the offense and defense aka a running back lowing his crown into the chest of the defender is the same as defender lowering it into the chest of an offensive player and call it both with and without the ball.


Now for something when reading the rule that pissed me off.

KEY INDICATORS

These indicate less risk of a foul:
  • Heads-up tackle in which the crown of the helmet does not strike above the shoulders
  • Wrap-up tackle
  • Head is to the side rather than being used to initiate contact
  • Incidental helmet contact that is not part of targeting but is due to the players changing position during the course of play
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What the hell is this less risk of a foul shit? There should be no risk of a foul in all instances of those except maybe a wrap up tackle which can happen with both contact to the head or neck area or leading with the crown.
 
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Jake said:
Looks that way. Maybe that'll cause him to reconsider? :lol:
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Cleveland getting the first pick would have caused him to do that. Going number one and to anybody other than Cleveland is a win. Luckily, Cleveland got that completely meaningless win against SF to screw up controlling their own destiny for an actual good player.
 
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CFPBuckeye said:
Cleveland getting the first pick would have caused him to do that. Going number one and to anybody other than Cleveland is a win. Luckily, Cleveland got that completely meaningless win against SF to screw up controlling their own destiny for an actual good player.
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Let's be serious. The Browns would've traded down and then traded back up for Hackenberg. It wouldn't surprise me if they still do that.
 
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