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wells
All-American
Gordon Gee != Overpaid
http://www.dispatch.com/content/sto.../ohio-state-tuition-hike-likely-gee-says.html
How short our memories are:
Want to take a guess who was instrumental in that initiative? This also during the onset of a recession.
If Gordon Gee was the president/CEO of a business equivalent in size and stature to that of Ohio State, given his returns he would be making ten times the salary if not more. A more appropriate argument is how incredibly cheap we are compensating such a visionary leader. In reality those that continue to complain about his salary have little perspective on macroeconomics, and fail to grasp just how great of a benefit he is to the university and state in general. By the time Gee decides to call it quits, OSU should be prepared to erect a statue similar in size to that of Lady Liberty, a fountain plaza to rival the Bellagio, and a monorail to circle the campus for no reason other than to provide a mobile dispersion platform for bow ties launched via air cannons manned by Minotaurs genetically engineered at the Wexner medical center.
buckeyebri;2254017; said:
http://www.dispatch.com/content/sto.../ohio-state-tuition-hike-likely-gee-says.html
How short our memories are:
Want to take a guess who was instrumental in that initiative? This also during the onset of a recession.
If Gordon Gee was the president/CEO of a business equivalent in size and stature to that of Ohio State, given his returns he would be making ten times the salary if not more. A more appropriate argument is how incredibly cheap we are compensating such a visionary leader. In reality those that continue to complain about his salary have little perspective on macroeconomics, and fail to grasp just how great of a benefit he is to the university and state in general. By the time Gee decides to call it quits, OSU should be prepared to erect a statue similar in size to that of Lady Liberty, a fountain plaza to rival the Bellagio, and a monorail to circle the campus for no reason other than to provide a mobile dispersion platform for bow ties launched via air cannons manned by Minotaurs genetically engineered at the Wexner medical center.
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CleveBucks
Serenity now
wells;2254163; said:
No, actually you can thank Ted Strickland for that tuition freeze. All Ohio public universities promised to freeze tuition in exchange for higher aid from the state. Gee wasn't even back at OSU until after the 2007-08 academic year started.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
buckeyebri;2253981; said:
It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that the state of Ohio covers less than 18% of Ohio State's budget as opposed to a third when I was in school and two-thirds in the 1950s.
No, no. Let's blame it on giving a guy a raise (a guy who I should add who put all of contractual raises and bonuses into a fund for scholarships and faculty salaries in the years after the crash) who has raised almost two billion dollars in the aftermath of the worst economic crash since 1929.
The man runs a 5 billion dollar enterprise, one of the most important economic engines in Ohio and one with tens of thousands of employees. Contrast what we pay him with the $15M that Dikram Pandit just took home for running Citibank into the fucking ground.
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BayBuck
Buckeyes are best
http://www.thelantern.com/campus/gee-s-3-raise-draws-some-students-ire-1.2951303
The always-informative Lantern samples the always-well-informed student population:
College kids
(Full disclosure: I got a bigger % raise from OSU than Gee this year, and have gotten a raise every year but one at OSU. :humblebrag: )
The always-informative Lantern samples the always-well-informed student population:
College kids
(Full disclosure: I got a bigger % raise from OSU than Gee this year, and have gotten a raise every year but one at OSU. :humblebrag: )
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BayBuck;2255164; said:http://www.thelantern.com/campus/gee-s-3-raise-draws-some-students-ire-1.2951303
The always-informative Lantern samples the always-well-informed student population:
College kids
(Full disclosure: I got a bigger % raise from OSU than Gee this year, and have gotten a raise every year but one at OSU. :humblebrag: )
They simply have to have quotes from the whole spectrum of viewpoints...I can about guarantee you most of the responses were in support of the raise but there were too many to put in the article.
And as for Gee...I used to be in a job that was instrumentally tied to higher education funding + there was a set budget in place and it was "not negotiable." Gordon Gee came in for 15 minutes and "not negotiable" turned into around millions upon millions of more funding for higher education with ease. The man is simply remarkable in every facet of his job and as others said, he made WAY more in the private sector. The return on investment for Gee favors not only Ohio State by a huge margin, but also for higher education statewide.
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BayBuck;2255164; said:
Call me an optimist, but I think ol' Layton Austin will have a different viewpoint in about ten years.
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Buckskin86
Moderator
https://twitter.com/BeauBishop/status/277120741516931073
i think the 5 year time frame relates to the new tv contract in 2017...BIG should have their expansion done by then.
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GPA. I'd pay to ride the Bow-tie express.
calibuck
Too soon old, too late smart
Gee is an acadaminician, pure and simple. His stops at Vandy, Brown, and Colorado and ? have not much of a football program at two and a money pit at the other. tOSU is self-sustaining, AND kicks in a goodly sum to the general fund. So he realizes he has a cash cow, and feeds it.
Regarding the bowl ban, lookit. Every executive has to make decisions. At the time this was all coming down, he (and Smith) took what they considered the most prudent course. Were they correct? Not in retrospect, but at the time yes. I don't seem to recollect any BPers gnashing their teeth about a bowl ban in the following year. (if there were some, I'm sure I'll hear about it).
Gee and Smith were doing damage control, as any 'self-imposed' penalties are, trying to limit the larger impact of NCAA. Was Smith misled? Probably, but at this late date, doesn't matter. Had anyone known that OSU would go 12-0 with several all-americas on the team, then heeeeeeck no, they woulda/shoulda taken the ban (self-imposed or not) last year. Based on the quality of the fight they put up against Florida, and a 6-6 season (pre-loss to Fla), you betcha.
Gee's position is that of a politician, winning people over to his way of thinking, outside the realm of OSU campus. He would make many times more his salary at a for-profit institution, but as a non-profit, he only has to break-even, not make money (for shareholders), which is a lesser skill set. He is more of an asset to Osu than a liability, given some of the presidents that have sat in the OSU 'big chair'. And finally, at that level, when Smith becomes too much of a political liability, he's gone. Just like the USC coach who went to Seattle...and Tressel...
:gobucks3::gobucks4:
Look at it this way, "12 and Oh and no place to go" will bear talking about for many years (as in what-if), than another football championship, or even losing in the BCS championship. So we win 
Regarding the bowl ban, lookit. Every executive has to make decisions. At the time this was all coming down, he (and Smith) took what they considered the most prudent course. Were they correct? Not in retrospect, but at the time yes. I don't seem to recollect any BPers gnashing their teeth about a bowl ban in the following year. (if there were some, I'm sure I'll hear about it).
Gee and Smith were doing damage control, as any 'self-imposed' penalties are, trying to limit the larger impact of NCAA. Was Smith misled? Probably, but at this late date, doesn't matter. Had anyone known that OSU would go 12-0 with several all-americas on the team, then heeeeeeck no, they woulda/shoulda taken the ban (self-imposed or not) last year. Based on the quality of the fight they put up against Florida, and a 6-6 season (pre-loss to Fla), you betcha.
Gee's position is that of a politician, winning people over to his way of thinking, outside the realm of OSU campus. He would make many times more his salary at a for-profit institution, but as a non-profit, he only has to break-even, not make money (for shareholders), which is a lesser skill set. He is more of an asset to Osu than a liability, given some of the presidents that have sat in the OSU 'big chair'. And finally, at that level, when Smith becomes too much of a political liability, he's gone. Just like the USC coach who went to Seattle...and Tressel...
:gobucks3::gobucks4:
Look at it this way, "12 and Oh and no place to go" will bear talking about for many years (as in what-if), than another football championship, or even losing in the BCS championship. So we win
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