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Federal Deficit/government shutdown

Discussion in 'Political Conversation and Debate' started by jimotis4heisman, Feb 2, 2009.

  1. Mike80

    Mike80 make it happen

    Yeah do nothing. Otherwise known as "bend over and kiss your own ass goodbye".

    BTW that idea comes from the "Center for American Progress", which champions just about every single leftist cause known.
  2. PlanetFrnd

    PlanetFrnd Newbie

    http://pogoblog.typepad.com/pogo/20...-work-traditionally-done-by-federal-empl.html

  3. Mike80

    Mike80 make it happen

    that story qualifies for the "no [Mark May] sherlock" statement of the week/month/year/decade just from the title.

    Everyone with half a brain who works with or for the government knows contractors cost more up front than govys do. You use contracts to staff projects quickly or projects that require a special skill or need.

    Contractors have become quasi-govys in some areas. That should have never been the goal.
  4. MightbeaBuck

    MightbeaBuck with hat in hand

    BusNative was pointing out how stupid the government in general is and how clueless the current administration is. we're all on your side here.
  5. MaxBuck

    MaxBuck Slam Thompson!

    It's bull[Mark May].

    The issue isn't billing rate per hour. It's what it costs to get the job done. The two do not really have much correlation.

    You can play all kind of silly games with billing rates, and utilization %, and all kinds of other metrics. What this "study" failed to consider is how much of the "public servant" time is spent in productive work as opposed to smoke breaks, checking Facebook pages, and running off to union meetings. You can't get away with that [Mark May] (usually) when you work for a private contractor.
    t_BuckeyeScott likes this.
  6. This.
  7. PlanetFrnd

    PlanetFrnd Newbie

    ...if contractor efficiency is that much greater, why do they cost so much more?
  8. PlanetFrnd

    PlanetFrnd Newbie

    I need to take a picture or something to commemorate this :lol:
  9. Mike80

    Mike80 make it happen

    [​IMG]

    Full disclosure - I'm now a 2210 series govy and I was a contractor for 11 years before that. I've seen both sides and yes both have their faults and their good points.

    I do network security now - I deal with STIGs and compliance as one of my daily duties. When the Field Security types go to sites and essentially rip them a new asshole over security holes, I get to listen in on the briefings and all that fun stuff.

    Anyway, a couple weeks ago there was an inspection at a site out west. This site uses a DMZ type set up and my agency provides the transport but another agency provides the administration/security for the actual applications on the machines, etc. Anyway, when the security types more or less compromised the applications, they went to Agency B and asked them for their security documentation to see if what they found fell under "acceptable risk". The govys who work for Agency B referred them to their agency labor lawyers. Literally. :lol:

    As a contractor, that [Mark May] would NEVER fly and you would likely lose your contract for even suggesting it.

    That application lost it's ATO and has to re-apply for access to the network. At least that worked.
  10. Fungo Squiggly

    Fungo Squiggly Too confusing to be offensive '13 B1G Pick'em Champ

    SOME say.....STIGs know nothing about ducks....and that their left nipples are in the shape of the Nurburgring.
  11. AKAK

    AKAK Pistol packing, monkey drinking, no money bum. Staff Member Bookie


    Why do you hate Niki Lauda's hair?
  12. NewYorkBuck

    NewYorkBuck Do not read this title Staff Member

  13. Jake

    Jake loves butterscotch jellybeans

    So, which one are you?

    http://pjmedia.com/andrewklavan/2011/11/28/cut-or-tax-are-you-an-adult-or-a-child/?singlepage=true
  14. Mike80

    Mike80 make it happen

    I love overly sweeping generalizations....
  15. muffler dragon

    muffler dragon Bien. Bien chiludo.

    I find this to be a balanced article that brings up some interesting foundational considerations.

    http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Colum...iscal-Cliff-Looms-Deficit-Mountain.aspx#page1

    *emphasis mine.

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