Discussion in 'Professional Baseball' started by OSUBasketballJunkie, Nov 21, 2007.
Heard a rumor from Buster Olney, about a sleeper team that might trade for Dan Haren... The Indians!
He was saying that if the Tribe management feel they won't be able to re-sign CC that they would be very interested in getting Haren who is signed til 2010. The A's would be interested in multiple pitching prospects and the main one we would have to give up is Adam Miller (and also Sowers). And to have Haren... I wouldn't mind giving up Miller.
And the thinking here is the Indians would go full out to win it this year in CC's last year and then let him walk next year.
Imagine a starting rotation of...
Now THAT is a starting rotation! Then in 2009 when CC walks we still have an ace in Haren at a reasonable price and then have time to develop Carmona as the 2nd ace.
A very interesting rumor that I had to pass along here.
That would be a fantastic trade, in my opinion. I was wondering why the Tribe wasn't in the discussion for Haren, and just assumed NY/Boston was willing to offer more.
it just doesn't make sense to let C.C. walk. You either sack up and over-pay or you get something in return.
The dumbest thing you could do is accept he won't sign and just let him walk after the season.
You give him your best offer, find out how close it is to his demands and find out if he's really intent on pitching closer to home (Cal.). If it's a no win situation, you make his name available for trade and see what's offered. You don't have to accept, but at least you'll have an idea. You can't let him walk for just a first round pick.
I don't know about you, but if he helps us win the World Series next year I wouldn't give a crap if he walked. And that is the 3rd option. You either sign him (if it is for good value I would, I would not overpay) you trade him (and thus conceding any real chance to win it all next year) or you ride him the last year for the chance of a championship.
All of them are gambles, you overpay and CC gets hurt and you basically kill the Indians budget for the length of CC's contract and we start selling off pieces. You trade CC away and then Dolan gets called cheap cuz he couldn't resign CC and the players we get don't pan out. Or you try for it all and we fall short.
I would rather gamble for the shot to win it all then if we fail and CC leaves us, we at least have money to pay for free agents (or in the above scenario you have Haren as your fall back) Not bad in my book.
i'd rather set ourselves up long-term, than put all our eggs in one basket. Detroit has to be favorites in the central, and Boston is obviously a heavy favorite to repeat, especially if they do land Santana. If C.C isn't re-signable, they have to find out what the market is for him.
We could easily fill a hole a LF/RF/3B with a proven commodity and then take several prospects.
Letting C.C. walk is leaving a helluva lot of good talent on the table.
I would do the deal in a heartbeat. Adam Miller has not pitched in the majors and has experienced arm problems over the past couple years so we really don't know how good he will be or if his arm will give out on him in a few years.
Do the deal and if CC still wants to stay around and sign a long-term contract, the Indians will also be better for the long-term. We have Lee and some others prospects that we can offer for a corner outfielder/3rd baseman.
Finally saw the rumor in print...
FOX Sports on MSN - MLB - Starting pitching market will get hot
Going to be tough to top the D-Backs offer.
There are also some rumors over on the Indians board that the Tribe is looking into maybe getting Eric Chavez along with Haren... Would certainly cost a bit more but it would fill our need at 3B
Chavez is definately a guy I could see rebounding to prior form. He's been hurt and in a line-up where he can be pitched very carefully. I'd love to get him if possible.
Plus he's always raked in Jacob's field.
After last winter, I just want some kind of a move. The Tribe had a nice year, but many other teams are improving and Shapiro cannot stand pat if he wants to make a serious run at a championship.
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