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Lebron James (Los Angeles Lakers)

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BuckeyeNation27 said:
Amazing how much better Lebron got a few weeks ago according to you guys :lol:
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Eh, I don't think anybody here had trouble admitting he was a great player. I can still say without hesitation that I don't think he's in the same league as greats like Bird, Jordan, and Kobe when the game's on the line. Him wearing the uniform of my favorite team doesn't change that. I hope he helps Cleveland win it's first title since the other LBJ was relevent, but I'll never like the clown. I found his "letter" to be insulting. He's "coming home" because it's convenient for his legacy and because his "kingdom" in Miami was crumbling faster than he thought it would when he joined his super friends. Make no mistake, if Wade wasn't falling apart and Miami didn't have a thrifty owner, he'd still be in Miami, and I'd still be wishing for a shark attack. It's a marriage of convenience, not about his "love for Ohio", IMO. He can just go out and win games and shove that "I'm coming home" horseshit up his ass, as far as I'm concerned. Also, any fans that wear those "FOR6IVEN" shirts are assclowns, IMO. Fuck this guy on that level.
 
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NFBuck said:
Eh, I don't think anybody here had trouble admitting he was a great player. I can still say without hesitation that I don't think he's in the same league as greats like Bird, Jordan, and Kobe when the game's on the line. Him wearing the uniform of my favorite team doesn't change that. I hope he helps Cleveland win it's first title since the other LBJ was relevent, but I'll never like the clown. I found his "letter" to be insulting. He's "coming home" because it's convenient for his legacy and because his "kingdom" in Miami was crumbling faster than he thought it would when he joined his super friends. Make no mistake, if Wade wasn't falling apart and Miami didn't have a thrifty owner, he'd still be in Miami, and I'd still be wishing for a shark attack. It's a marriage of convenience, not about his "love for Ohio", IMO. He can just go out and win games and shove that "I'm coming home" horse[Mark May] up his ass, as far as I'm concerned. Also, any fans that wear those "FOR6IVEN" shirts are assclowns, IMO. Fuck this guy on that level.
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You're the exception. When I went looking back in this thread for the reactions to The Letter, I saw people arguing the Kobe vs Lebron thing....only their answers were different for some reason.
 
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NFBuck said:
Eh, I don't think anybody here had trouble admitting he was a great player. I can still say without hesitation that I don't think he's in the same league as greats like Bird, Jordan, and Kobe when the game's on the line.
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I can't remember where I saw it unfortunately.. but I remember seeing before that the crunch time stats actually show that Lebron is significantly better than Kobe when the game is on the line.
 
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BigJim said:
I can't remember where I saw it unfortunately.. but I remember seeing before that the crunch time stats actually show that Lebron is significantly better than Kobe when the game is on the line.
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That would surprise me.

I think my beef has always been that Kobe WANTS the ball in his hands in crunchtime. LeBron was always a little too passive for my taste. I can think of two memorable occasions with the Cavs...against Detroit in the conference finals in 2007 when he took over a game like nothing I've ever seen, and the 3 at the buzzer in game 2 of the ill-fated conference finals vs Orlando in 2009. Admittedly, I've watched next-to-no NBA in the last few years, so maybe that's changed, but my lingering memory of him is the quitness act he pulled against Boston in his last series before bailing to hang out with his buds.
 
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BigJim said:
I can't remember where I saw it unfortunately.. but I remember seeing before that the crunch time stats actually show that Lebron is significantly better than Kobe when the game is on the line.
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http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=truehoop&id=58575&src=desktop

Since LeBron came into the league in 2003-04, nobody in the NBA has made more game-tying and go-ahead shots in the final 24 seconds of playoff games than LeBron, who is 7-of-16 on those shots. His 43.8 field goal percentage on those clutch shots ranks the best in the NBA since his rookie season among players with at least 10 attempts. The league average is 28.3 percent on those shots.
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only takes into consideration since LBJ's rookie year though.
 
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