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Marcellus/Utica Oil and Gas in Ohio (Plus Manufacturing/Economic impact)

Discussion in 'Political Conversation and Debate' started by AKAK, Sep 27, 2011.

  1. PlanetFrnd

    PlanetFrnd Newbie


    There is definitely a market for reclaimed oil. I've seen a deal or two lately... none are from landfills, but there is a market for the oil, depending on the composition of the asset.
  2. muffler dragon

    muffler dragon Bien. Bien chiludo.

    The only question I have is "how much virgin resource energy do you need to use to create that recycled resource energy?". :biggrin:
  3. AKAK

    AKAK Schwarze Kapelle Staff Member Bookie

    You're making Gaia cry.

    (Damn, I need one of those "Come at me Bro" with Gaia on it... one of the real hippie Lord of the Rings looking Gaia's)
  4. muffler dragon

    muffler dragon Bien. Bien chiludo.

    Ain't the first time. :shrug:

    Just wouldn't be all that impressive.
  5. AKAK

    AKAK Schwarze Kapelle Staff Member Bookie

    Place this here for now since I don't want to completely muck up the Obama thread with Energy stuff...

    Keyword: "Tritium" I'm pretty sure Tritium mus be pretty cool.

    Anyway, another streetfight in Ohio about jobs, energy, DOE loans, etc.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...line_as_nuke_plant_deadline_nears_113505.html

  6. Muck

    Muck Buckeyes vs World

    I have a vial of it on my keyring. :)
  7. Jimmy Carter

    Jimmy Carter Admiring my Peace Prize

  8. muffler dragon

    muffler dragon Bien. Bien chiludo.

    A direct manner in which natural gas could help now (if legislation can remove an unnecessary obstacle).

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/christo...n-it-could-fuel-america-if-it-werent-illegal/

  9. PlanetFrnd

    PlanetFrnd Newbie

    Good reporting, Forbes... I'm not defending 'Washington' but its saying the problem is 'Washington' for a 2007 law that is blocking a 2012 technology that is still a "very big if." You think congressmen or even the President would be politically opposed to clean gas-to-liquid or, the President especially, clean coal-to-liquid technology?

    sorry, MD, not attacking your post...
  10. muffler dragon

    muffler dragon Bien. Bien chiludo.

    No apology necessary, I understand. It's a pertinent point as the color of the author's emotions definitely come through. I believe that the author finds the difficulty for the President and those of a Green persuasion to be less than enthused, because of a supposed environmental impact.
  11. AKAK

    AKAK Schwarze Kapelle Staff Member Bookie

    I don't think it says that at all. I think it says that there is this dumb law that requires x amount of ethanol, and part of that be cellulosic, and that's crappy technology and this is better. (Oh, and petro companies are getting fined for not blending the required cellulosic ethanol... that doesn't exist)

    And then goes on to say, if you want to use ethanol, this dude has a different way to make it. (Which I wonder if it would be viable without the afforementioned cellulosic mandate/subsidy... I didn't read closely)
  12. PlanetFrnd

    PlanetFrnd Newbie

    I hear ya, I hear ya
  13. PlanetFrnd

    PlanetFrnd Newbie

    I must have misinterpreted the word "problem" to mean the 2007 lawmakers should have created a loophole for technology in the future.
  14. MaxBuck

    MaxBuck Slam Thompson!

    The problem is the continuing subsidies for the moronic concept of producing fuel ethanol from corn. It's a ridiculous, Congress-synthesized junk technology that is absurdly inefficient and expensive.
  15. AKAK

    AKAK Schwarze Kapelle Staff Member Bookie

    Well, you also imply that that very big if is the technology. :wink:

    So, what we've got here is the the big if is caused by Washington. Which I guess may or may not be the case.

    (Long story short, this is merely another arrow in the quiver against RFS, which, while admirable in theory, is becoming rather unworkable in practice, if not, as shows in this case, rather counterproductive.)

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