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Nutriaitch;2088144; said:
Depends who you ask.

Lee did not graduate in December like he was supposed to.
He supposedly graduated early Januay after taking his final class in the Winter intersession.


I haven't been able to find the specific rule though.
Only articles stating # of early enrollees can not exceed graduates in December.

If December is the absolute cutoff date, then Lee not graduating leaves us short a spot for an early enrolee.

If the date is just prior to spring semester, then Lee graduating a month late is not to blame.
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IIRC there are two rules that apply. You cannot have more than 25 "initial counters" in any one academic year. So if you bring in 25 in the fall you can't bring in anyone else new until the next fall. Early enrollees are a way of moving an initial counter back to the previous academic year (if there is room) to create space in the following year.

The second rule is that you can't have more than 85 on scholarship at any one time. The statement about not having more come in early than graduate in December sounds like the need to stay under that figure.
 
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Coqui;2088174; said:
It's horsecrap because these are STUDENT athletes. They pick their colleges not only to hope for playing time, but to get an education. A lot of these athletes can't afford to go to college without these athletic scholarships. So they sign their LOI with the intent that when they arrive on campus, they can attend both practice and class assured that their scholarship is intact. Yes the scholarship is only good for one year, but most intend on staying to get at least the three years of education at one school.

When players switch schools they get ridiculed (Tate Forcier). When teams switch players, people should be outraged.
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Ok, but this kid never signed with LSU.

The kid had choices.
A. Enroll at LSU in spring, but foot bill for 1st semester.
B. Wait until Fall to enroll at LSU on full ride scholly
C. Enroll else where in Spring on full ride.

This kid decided to enroll else where.

I understand and respect his choice.

If my understanding of the situation is correct, he could have enrolled here had Lee graduated when he was expected to do so.
 
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Of course he never signed with LSU. Early enrollees do not sign a letter of intent. They give a verbal then they enroll after the fall semester and they are then on scholarship.

Gray shirting needs to be discussed well in advance, not right before classes begin.
 
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Nutriaitch said:
Ok, but this kid never signed with LSU.

The kid had choices.
A. Enroll at LSU in spring, but foot bill for 1st semester.
B. Wait until Fall to enroll at LSU on full ride scholly
C. Enroll else where in Spring on full ride.

This kid decided to enroll else where.

I understand and respect his choice.

If my understanding of the situation is correct, he could have enrolled here had Lee graduated when he was expected to do so.
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You realize he had the rug pulled out from under him right? Since it was at the 11th hour instead of the 12th....it's OK to you?
 
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Beaver;2087896; said:
What's even worse is this surprise request worked last year, with a player paying his own way :shake:
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I see nothing wrong with it so long as you give the kid full disclosure with timely notice.*

I do not see that here.


*If he wants to be a part of LSU on his own dime, more power to him.
 
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BuckeyeNation27;2088315; said:
You realize he had the rug pulled out from under him right? Since it was at the 11th hour instead of the 12th....it's OK to you?
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I don't follow recruiting at all.
Other than to look at the list on signing day, then read about the new guys.

So I have no clue what was promised to who or when or why.
 
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Gatorubet;2088321; said:
I see nothing wrong with it so long as you give the kid full disclosure with timely notice.*

I do not see that here.


*If he wants to be a part of LSU on his own dime, more power to him.
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Miles obviously would have known that Lee wasn't going to graduate 10 days earlier. I wouldn't define timely notice as letting the kid travel to Baton Rouge from Fla., and then making him hang out for a week before giving him the bad news. I guess Les was too busy fine-tuning that brilliant master game plan for the NC to worry about some kid road tripping several hundred miles for nothing.
 
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?Coach Saban just said I?m the 26th commitment. I would be the 26th signee. I guess he went and picked up somebody else. He said I make 26 and they only get 25. They talked about bringing me in next January.? [Note: Alabama has 27 commitments]
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?I?m going to go ahead and stick with Alabama. I mean, I?m committed to them. They committed to me. They want me. I know they want me because that?s what they are telling me. If they didn?t want me, they wouldn?t let me keep my scholarship..."
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Oh, son... :lol:
 
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Nick Saban told him that he wished he could have informed him back in August.

I think we should cut Saban some slack here. He didn't know he would end up getting 25 players he considered better than this guy. And even though he did, he's upholding his commitment by allowing him to sign in 2013... assuming they don't again find 25 players better than him... in which case I can almost assure you they'd let him sign in 2014... unless they find 25 players better than him... (rinse, wash, repeat)

I have a really good feeling he would be lining up at running back for the University of Alabama at the ripe old age of 27. Good for him!
 
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