buxfan4life
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How do lairs come out of the woodwork? Wouldn't they have been built into the woodwork?
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That word gets misspelled on there once a day. I should probably check to see if it's that same goofus each time.
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I think they mix it up due confusion with Pitt Panther Lair, and the fact that bwi posters are generally retarded.
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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
Same thread you guys were quoting. I guess I'll link it here, just in case:
https://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?SID=890&fid=36&style=2&tid=173720026&Page=2
30-60 days in jail. For being guilty of sexual molestation.
https://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?SID=890&fid=36&style=2&tid=173720026&Page=2
30-60 days in jail. For being guilty of sexual molestation.
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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
Patriot News, Part 6 of 9: Chapter 4, The CYS Friday News Dump
https://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&tid=173757066&mid=173757066&sid=890&style=2
https://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&tid=173757066&mid=173757066&sid=890&style=2
I don't buy it.
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Or, the flipside of that coin. What would it take for a head coach to never talk to a highly touted assistant who was pivotal to you winning a National Championship? A coach who was supposed to be your successor? How do you go from next in line to forced out and never talked to again?
But sure....Paterno didn't know anything.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
I believe it, but it was because after 98 (and probably before) Paterno knew god damned well what Sandusky was. He just didn't want it public knowledge for fear of tainting his holy grand experiment and image. As for never speaking or seeing him, that may be, but Paterno god damned knew that Sandusky was bringing kids into the football facilities, taking them to games and crossing state lines to take them to bowl games.....in other words, using the program as bait. All that was fine, so long as Saint Joesus was never attached to it personally.
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AJHawkfan
Wanna make $14 the hard way?
I call bullshit on the whole "Joe never spent time or even spoke to Jerry" narrative. Regardless, it just doesn't matter.
Joesus knew that allegations had been made against Jer on more than one occasion. After the first round of accusations and subsequent investigations came out, he should have assumed that where there is smoke, there might be fire and he could have issued a very simple decree - that under no circumstances was Jer (or any other football employees) permitted to be on campus or on road trips with a youngster without a third party present.
The Boy Scouts of America have a very simple (and very clear) rule against an adult leader ever being in a one-on-one situation with a single scout. There must ALWAYS be another person present. Joesus could have easily mandated this policy with Jer and the abuse could have ended.
Given the resources and authority Joesus had at the height of his reign, I cannot imagine that doing something along these lines would have been very difficult. (Hell, it would have made perfect sense, in that it also protects the program if the accuser is actually just on a money grab...)
Of course, I suppose it would be asking far too much of a man who didn't even understand how to use email......
Joesus knew that allegations had been made against Jer on more than one occasion. After the first round of accusations and subsequent investigations came out, he should have assumed that where there is smoke, there might be fire and he could have issued a very simple decree - that under no circumstances was Jer (or any other football employees) permitted to be on campus or on road trips with a youngster without a third party present.
The Boy Scouts of America have a very simple (and very clear) rule against an adult leader ever being in a one-on-one situation with a single scout. There must ALWAYS be another person present. Joesus could have easily mandated this policy with Jer and the abuse could have ended.
Given the resources and authority Joesus had at the height of his reign, I cannot imagine that doing something along these lines would have been very difficult. (Hell, it would have made perfect sense, in that it also protects the program if the accuser is actually just on a money grab...)
Of course, I suppose it would be asking far too much of a man who didn't even understand how to use email......
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
Or understand that there was such a thing as rape between a man and a boy.
BEAT NEBRASKA!
BEAT NEBRASKA!
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
This is interesting. Of course, the pedster misses the entire point of it, which is that once Paterno gained control, it was staffed with nobody but insider cronies personally responsible and loyal to him. And Freeh was actually shocked that the department didn't even have a compliance department. It's not as if outsiders from other universities were ever brought in who might have pointed out that glaring absence. The last outsider who tried to bring standard, university practices to happy valley was Vicky Triponey. How'd her tenure work out for her?
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Delaware Buck
Heisman
Here is a good (very, very long) thread where Ray Blehar attempts to defend his work to someone that actually understands Clery, the lack of compliance and the farce that was the grand experiment. By the end of this Blehar gives up and has no response:
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5454535989576644455&postID=3804302676634674795
Original post on Rivals is 2/3's down at https://pittsburgh.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=530&tid=202669057&mid=202669057&sid=996&style=2
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Here's a quote from one of the men in this argument:
You guys get to guess if it was said by Blehar in defense of Paterno, or by the other guy condemning Penn State.
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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
https://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&tid=173754956&mid=173754956&sid=890&style=2
Most of the thread seems to be "meh". I guess Delaney is rooting for reduced sanctions, or something. But Southern PA Buck Hunter comes in saying that he wants Joesus's name put back on the trophy. His name was removed before it was ever awarded to anyone. My question, that I have yet to receive a good answer to, is, "Why was his name on the trophy to begin with?" In his 19 years, he won 3 Big Ten championships. 95 conference wins in 19 years. What's that, 5 wins a season? Tressel got 67 wins in 10 years, or 6.7 wins a season, plus 7 conference championships. For corn sakes, John Cooper got 70 conference wins in 13 years (just under 5.5 wins a year) and he got 3 conference championships, too.
I just don't get it.
Maybe longevity is what gets your name on the trophy? Bo Schembechler coached a Big Ten team for 20 years or so. Woody Hayes coached for 28 years. I'm not going to research the number of wins they each got, or conference championships.
But it's the blorpin' conference championship trophy. You name it after someone who won a lot of conference championships. You don't name it after Northwestern, or Wisconsin. You don't name the SEC championship trophy after someone from Vanderbilt or South Carolina. That South Carolina example may be perfect, as they joined the SEC soon before Penn State joined the Big Ten. Should the SEC championship trophy be named for Lou Holtz? For Steve Spurrier? Those two guys are/were about on pace to win as many SEC championships in 19 years as the number of Big Ten championships Joe Paterno won. Or, screw it - name the SEC championship trophy after Paterno. He's only 3 SEC championships away from tying his incredible mark of 3 conference championships in the Big Ten.
Blarg. Aside from the elephant in the room (Sandusky scandal), let's just say Paterno was the man the cult thinks he was. Name the "kick-ass coach of the year" award after Paterno, I guess. I would find that pretty gross, but at least you aren't besmirching the championship trophy with the name of someone who repeatedly failed to win a championship.
Most of the thread seems to be "meh". I guess Delaney is rooting for reduced sanctions, or something. But Southern PA Buck Hunter comes in saying that he wants Joesus's name put back on the trophy. His name was removed before it was ever awarded to anyone. My question, that I have yet to receive a good answer to, is, "Why was his name on the trophy to begin with?" In his 19 years, he won 3 Big Ten championships. 95 conference wins in 19 years. What's that, 5 wins a season? Tressel got 67 wins in 10 years, or 6.7 wins a season, plus 7 conference championships. For corn sakes, John Cooper got 70 conference wins in 13 years (just under 5.5 wins a year) and he got 3 conference championships, too.
I just don't get it.
Maybe longevity is what gets your name on the trophy? Bo Schembechler coached a Big Ten team for 20 years or so. Woody Hayes coached for 28 years. I'm not going to research the number of wins they each got, or conference championships.
But it's the blorpin' conference championship trophy. You name it after someone who won a lot of conference championships. You don't name it after Northwestern, or Wisconsin. You don't name the SEC championship trophy after someone from Vanderbilt or South Carolina. That South Carolina example may be perfect, as they joined the SEC soon before Penn State joined the Big Ten. Should the SEC championship trophy be named for Lou Holtz? For Steve Spurrier? Those two guys are/were about on pace to win as many SEC championships in 19 years as the number of Big Ten championships Joe Paterno won. Or, screw it - name the SEC championship trophy after Paterno. He's only 3 SEC championships away from tying his incredible mark of 3 conference championships in the Big Ten.
Blarg. Aside from the elephant in the room (Sandusky scandal), let's just say Paterno was the man the cult thinks he was. Name the "kick-ass coach of the year" award after Paterno, I guess. I would find that pretty gross, but at least you aren't besmirching the championship trophy with the name of someone who repeatedly failed to win a championship.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
Thinking about this dispassionately and attempting to intellectualize it as much as possible, I keep coming back to one simple concept: FUCK PATERNO. Seriously, fuck him in whatever bowel of hell he is currently residing in. The man's entire life and career was one big grift/conjob/illusion both on the field and off it.
And....AND, when it all started to fall apart on the field, you saw his true colors as a manipulative con artist whose entire career was built off of weak opponents and hand-picked home refs, without which he wasn't nothing more than an whiny, ref-chasing, khaki-crapping fraud.
Off the field, his entire "grand experiment-i'm better than you-success with honor" bullshit had about as sound a foundation as the fucking Tower of Pisa. It was all built upon an athletic department full of handpicked cronies loyal only to him, the complete absence of a compliance department and a fuckload of Parks & Recreation degrees.
And when finally confronted with the most serious and heinous of situations.....one that truly could have ensured his reputation as a man of honor willing to do the right thing above the interests of his football program....he ran, hid and covered up.
BEAT NEBRASKA!
BURN IN HELL!
And....AND, when it all started to fall apart on the field, you saw his true colors as a manipulative con artist whose entire career was built off of weak opponents and hand-picked home refs, without which he wasn't nothing more than an whiny, ref-chasing, khaki-crapping fraud.
Off the field, his entire "grand experiment-i'm better than you-success with honor" bullshit had about as sound a foundation as the fucking Tower of Pisa. It was all built upon an athletic department full of handpicked cronies loyal only to him, the complete absence of a compliance department and a fuckload of Parks & Recreation degrees.
And when finally confronted with the most serious and heinous of situations.....one that truly could have ensured his reputation as a man of honor willing to do the right thing above the interests of his football program....he ran, hid and covered up.
BEAT NEBRASKA!
BURN IN HELL!
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I'm with you on the coach of the year thing. That way I won't be so upset when the powers that be invent a new reason to not give it to whoever happens to be coaching Ohio State at the time.
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