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The Buffalo Bills

Discussion in 'Professional Football' started by korchiki, Dec 8, 2004.

  1. korchiki

    korchiki Newbie

    do we have any bills fans in here???
    also does anyone think that they have a chance to make the playoffs. they play the browns 49ers bengals and steelers. but the steelers game is the last game of the season so they could be resting their players. i understand that this will be big time biased towards either the browns or bengals but if i can get someones honest opinion.
    thanks
  2. Bucklion

    Bucklion Throwback Moderator

    Hi korchicki,

    Welcome aboard...I gre up about 2 hours away from Buffalo in Western NY,so I am very familiar with the Bills. I was around for their glory years, and I must say Jim Kelly is one of the nicest and most gracious players I have ever met.

    As for this season, first off unfortunately they are in the wrong conference. If they were in the NFC, they would be hands-on-favorites to make the playoffs, but they are in the tough AFC. I have to say I'm impressed with the roll they've been on, and are showing significant signs of life for the first time in several seasons. They are 6-6, and right now the 2 Wild Card teams would be the Jets at 9-3, who they have no chance of catching, and Baltimore/Denver, who are both 7-5 and struggling, whom they could catch. I like their chances a whole lot against Cleveland, considering they might be starting McCown again and they just got demolished, this weekend. That puts them at 7-6. The 49ers they should be able to sneeze and beat, especially if Rattay and Barlow don't play like they won't this week, so that moves them to 8-6. The other 2 games are more dicey. The trip to Cincy in week 15 will probably make or break the season for them. Cincy is also showing some signs of life, especially in the passing game, and that could be a tough matchup. If they lose that one, they are 8-7 and entertain Pittsburgh, who will not be resting anybody unless either they or NE go on a losing streak, because right now both are 11-1 and battling for home field advantage. So, you have to think they are 8-7 pending the Bengal game. If they win that one and can go 9-7, then let's see:

    Denver (7-5) has Miami (8-5), at KC (8-6), at Tennessee (8-7), and Colts (8-8); I see that as being no better than 9-7, but probably 9-7

    Baltimore (7-5) has NYGiants (8-5), at Colts (8-6), at Pitt (8-7), Miami (9-7); probable 9-7

    Jax (6-6) has Chicago (7-6), at GB (7-7), Houston (8-7), at Oakland (9-7); probable 9-7

    Cincy (6-6) has at NE (6-7), Buffalo (6-8), NYGiants (7-8), at Phily (7-9); probable 8-8 or 7-9

    So basically, if they can stop the run and controlthe Cincy game, they'll be right there at the end, but they need to win 3/4 to get to 9-7, where there will be some tie-breaker system that I know nothing about to figure out who gets the last spot.

    That's what I see anyway.
  3. korchiki

    korchiki Newbie

    thanks for your help...i jsut wanted to see if anyone else felt the same way that i did...the only problem the bills face is we lose the head to head to jacksonville and baltimore so we need to do better than them...which could be a problem

    by the way im going to the bills steelers game...the bills are my team...and i am currently attending miami of ohio...home of big ben...hopefully ill get to see him play...just wanted to throw that in
  4. Buckeye Nut

    Buckeye Nut Junior

    I'm a big Bills fan and have been ever since I was a few years old. I was born and raised in Ohio, about an hour from Cleveland, but I think I was drawn to the Bills at a young age because I liked their helmets and I also like buffaloes. I know it's a silly reason, but when you're a little kid you like things for reason that later turn out to be silly. I concur with the "Bills can make the playoffs" sentiment. If you look at the schedule they should win at home this week against Cleveland. At Cincinnati next week will be tough, but it's winnable. The following week at San Francisco is also a game they should win. Finally at home against Pittsburgh. The Bills can beat Pittsburgh at home and on top of that Pittsburgh might not have much to play for and could be sitting some of their top players to prep for the playoffs. Also, even if they are fighting for home field advantage I think playing just to make the playoffs is a bigger motivator than playing to try and get home field advantage. Especially since the game is in Buffalo, the Bills fans will be going crazy if Buffalo is at 9-6 and can win that game to possibly lock up a playoff spot. I do believe that if the Bills can win out and finish 10-6 they will make the playoffs. I'm not sure if they hold the tiebreaker as of now over Denver, but obviously they don't have it over Baltimore. Looking at Baltimore's schedule they very well could lose two more games, which is what the Bills need. Looking at Denver's schedule and looking at how they've played recently they also could very well lose two more games. As for the other 6-6 teams, Jacksonville won't win out and we control our own destiny with Cincinnati since we play each other next week. I just hope the Bills can get a win against Cleveland to get above .500 for the first time this year and build the excitement going into next weeks game against Cincinnati.
  5. korchiki

    korchiki Newbie

    thank you very much for your insight. it was really helpful. i really hope that they win out, the bengals will be very tough at home and with the loss of the tight end (campbell maybe) we will have some work to do...lets just hope for the best...thanks again
  6. So what do you guys think of your OC ?? He is on ND's list...
  7. korchiki

    korchiki Newbie

    i dont really know to muhc about him at all...all i know is that they are jsut starting to click so hopefully he wont go...if he does i wish him best of luck...and to all the notre dame fans jsut be patient with your next coach whoever it is...jus let him do his thing cause the kids have to learn the system before it can be effective
  8. Buckeye Nut

    Buckeye Nut Junior

    I couldn't tell you much about him either. I know he played QB at ND and won a NC in '73. Clements and Mularkey have got the offense really going, basically ever since McGahee stepped in as the starting RB. The only bad games they've really had since then was @ Baltimore and @ NE. Right now they're riding a three game win streak and they're averaging nearly 40 points a game. Although the ppg is a little inflated in that stretch because they've had two kick returns for TD and at least one defensive TD. However, the offense has still been good. Moulds and rookie Lee Evans are becoming a dangerous combination at receiver with the emergence of McGahee as a solid NFL running back. It's hard to say how Clements would do at the college level, you never can tell really until he gets the opportunity. Personally, I would like him to stay with the Bills and I hope ND goes and takes NE offensive coordinator Charlie Weis because the rest of the AFC needs all the help it can get right now.
  9. TGfan06

    TGfan06 Senior Hurler

    As a cleveland fan, I always thought that we were the only ones that have had it rough(I was young in the early nineties). But with OSU's recent bowls, I must say that I have much more respect for the fans of the buffalo bills. It has been tough to lose 2 in a row, but 4 would just kill me. Yet they remained strong, and to this day have some of the best fans.( They were well represented at the browns game this year!)

    But I know that there are millions of fans that would just love to be in our shoes for just one of these games, win or lose. In time the pain will wear off, and we can look back and celebrate these teams properly!

    GO BUCKS!
    GO BILLS!!
    BayBuck likes this.
  10. Buckeye Nut

    Buckeye Nut Junior

    Try being a Bills, Buckeyes, Indians, Cavs and Sabres fan!:biggrin: I was also fairly young as well during the Super Bowl run, but I was still a huge fan then. Still remember crying myself to sleep after Norwood's miss. Going through the four Super Bowl losses was tough, I was in elementary school(3rd-6th grade) and I got ragged on a lot by other kids, including by some of my teachers! Thinking back on it I'm sure today a teacher would be suspended for doing something like that since everybody is so overly sensitive. I'm still very proud of those Bills teams for how resilient they were and will always have great memories of all those players.
    I think the 32-point comeback against Houston on their way to their third Super Bowl perfectly sums up what kind of team they were. They were without Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas, Corneilius Bennett and if I recall Bruce Smith played but was banged up and they still faught through it to win that game. That's my favorite Bills game of all-time and I think only a Super Bowl victory will ever top that game. I still remember I had to go to the store with my mom that day and missed most of the first half. By the time we got back it was already 21-3 Houston and I was instantly put in a bad mood. I went over to my neighbor's house, who also happened to be a Bills fan, and we decided to get our revenge on the Oilers by beating the crap out of them in Tecmo Super Bowl with the Bills during halftime. I remember in the second half after the ball went through Keith McKeller's hands and Bubba McDowell returned the int for a score and it was 35-3, the Bills started to get it going and all of a sudden everything started to go their way. Warren Moon no longer was playing out of his mind, the Bills capitalized on some blown coverages, botched field goal snaps, they were getting turnovers and Houston was now in a state of shock because they thought they had already won the game. Even when the game went into overtime I knew the Bills were going to win, there was no way they were going to be denied at that point. Being a fan of all those teams makes me really appreciate the Buckeyes title in 2002 because of all the disappointment and heartache my teams have caused me. The 2002 title was even more special considering I was a student at OSU at the time as well, so I feel like I have a real connection with that team because they were my peers and classmates. I look forward to the day the Bills win the Super Bowl and I hope it happens in my lifetime. I'm not ashamed to say I would probably shed a few tears of joy because it would be that special after having been through all the disappointments we've had to endure as a fanbase.
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  11. WoodyWorshiper

    WoodyWorshiper THINK, Before You Speak

    Nice post by an obvious fan who loves his Bills. Being a Browns fan, however, I'm just hoping for the day that I can Bitch about "losing" a single Super Bowl.:biggrin:
  12. osucollegebuck

    osucollegebuck Nathan Williams #43

    I'm a season ticket holder for the Bills and a student at tOSU. I always wear Buckeye jerseys to Bills games. I think they have a chance to make the playoffs, lets not forget they had the most players on the IR at the end of the year. They have an even greater chance if they trade up and get Big Vern :biggrin:. Its funny reading their draft board, everyones very dissapointed that JL and Malcolm are staying for their senior yr. I love Ohio State and Ohio State North NFL edition.
  13. OSUsushichic

    OSUsushichic Fired up! Ready to go! Moderator

    NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and state Senator Charles Schumer will meet with Bills owner Ralph Wilson to explore ways to keep the team in Buffalo. With NFL approval, Wilson scheduled some Bills exhibition and regular-season games at the 50,000-capacity Rogers Centre in Toronto. The decision has led to speculation the franchise will one day move north.

    Work starts to keep Bills in Buffalo - The Boston Globe
  14. Buckeye Nut

    Buckeye Nut Junior

    Let's hope they make sure this happens. It would be an absolute tragedy for the city of Buffalo to lose the Bills. Unlike Cleveland losing the Browns, I couldn't ever see Buffalo getting another team.
    BayBuck likes this.
  15. what percentage of bills season ticket holders are canadian? the games ive been to there a third of the cars have ontario plates

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