Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by MightbeaBuck, Jun 3, 2004.
And Kelly wins NCOY
at the boner the media has for ND. Bill Snyder should've won it...
I really don't have that much of a problem with Kelly winning it. I really don't like him, but I can't argue against it.
He did murder rhat kid.
That is the price you have to pay to reach the top.
And protect that rapist.
Just curious, anyone know which coach has gotten to 100 wins the fastest at a single school?
The closest I can find is digging into the records for fastest to 100 wins overall, and then finding out who got their first 100 all at one school. I don't know if there's somebody out there who got to 100 at one school faster than these guys mid-career - that would be a pretty tall task looking at the numbers.
George Woodruff recorded his 100th win for Penn in 1899 in his 109th game.
In the modern era, Bud Wilkinson recorded his 100th win for Oklahoma in 1957 in his 111th game. Impressively, that mark for Wilkinson came in the midst of Oklahoma's record 47-game unbeaten run, so a significant number of games in that streak came after the 100-win milestone.
There was one guy who got to 100 wins faster than both of them - Gil Dobie Got his 100th FBS win with Cornell in 1923. He only needed 108 games to accomplish it, but Cornell was his third FBS job (and fourth overall.)
To put this in perspective, Chris Petersen of Boise State has the highest win percentage among active coaches. His career record (all at BSU) is 83-8. He's have to go undefeated over his next 17 games just to tie Dobie. I don't see that happening at all, but if he goes 17-3 in his next stretch of game he could tie Wilkinson by getting his 100th win in his 111th game - though there's no doubt which of the two would have done it in more impressive fashion.
Larry Kehres took 118 to get his first 100.
Here's the astonishing stat. His next 100 wins took 101 games.
Another thing to consider about Dobie, Woodruff and Wilkinson: Some of those non-wins were ties. If they had overtime back when each of those guys coached you can imagine that some of those ties would have become wins, getting them to their respective marks even faster.
It is nice to keep some stats in mind for the 2012 season, because it is easy to forget:
I'm a catholic and incredibly disappointed by the way Kelly and the Administration protected Shembo. They have no shame and Kelly will always be on my [Mark May] list for a total lack of moral courage.
I know it's debatable, but let's not act like Kelly taking a mediocre team at best to 12-0 in two years is not worthy of winning the award. ND has been meddling in mediocrity for the last decade or more, whereas Ohio State has been elite during that period. Kelly turned that around almost immediately and deserves the award.
Now of course UFM took a 6-6 team that was the most underwhelming OSU team I have seen in my lifetime and led them to an undefeated season, but I truly have doubts that we are undefeated if we play any of Stanford, scUM, Oklahoma, etc. all before the last 3 games of the season. While ND was beating those teams, we were squeaking out wins against Cal and UAB. Even UFM said we were not a good team basically before the last 3 games. UFM deserves a ton of credit and if not for Kelly doing what he did this year, by all means it should be UFM's or Snyder's award.
And on that token, Snyder had the same chance to go undefeated and win the award, but failed to do so. I realize you face numerous obstacles at KSU but he had the team to go undefeated and didn't do it, all while getting throttled by Baylor. I know I will get reamed out of blind homerism and animosity towards ND, but it is hard to objectively say Kelly did not deserve the award.
Because one person wins an award it does not mean some other is not also deserving of the award. I agree with RB... Kelly is a piece of [Mark May], a murderous piece of [Mark May]... But, he did "deserve" the award for taking 2012 ND to the title game. He, Meyer and Snyder all "deserved" the award. There was only one to give out.
I wanted Urbs to win it. Big deal. I doubt he's losing sleep over it.
I agree with this. Kelly will be playing poker with JoPed, Sandusky, and Hitler in Hell in 30 years, but his undefeated team is in the BCS championship game. If OSU had been eligible for a bowl this season Meyer might have had a shot at the award because I have a feeling the BCS title game matchup would be different regardless of what the AP poll says. I think Meyer is more respected as a coach than Kelly which would have helped him pull votes.
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