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2004 '04 Academic Casualties and why team rankings can be deceiving

Discussion in 'Football Recruiting' started by Buckskin86, Jun 22, 2004.

  1. Buckskin86

    Buckskin86 Moderator

    http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040622/NEWS/406220393/1002/SPORTS

    When judging recruiting classes we should probably wait to see what prospects actually play. Same thing happened to Miami last year.

    Another '04 tOSU recruitBrandon Barrett is also having trouble qualifying

     
  2. CleveBucks

    CleveBucks Serenity now Staff Member

    I know Alabama had 5 or 6 that didn't qualify. I wonder about miami and FSU, they usually have a few too.
     
  3. LordJeffBuck

    LordJeffBuck Illuminatus Emeritus Staff Member

    No wonder OSU cooled on Barrett last year.

    I'm glad that OSU does a much better job of pre-screening its recruits. It wasn't too long ago that the Bucks lost three or four players a year to grades.
     
  4. hajpajknight

    hajpajknight Newbie

    it is nice that we look into these things, i just hope we can avoid future miles williams/da'juan morgan situations. and as a guidance counceler, you have to know better than that. i mean yeah he shouldnt have dropped the class, but its your job to know what is necessary to play D1 sports, know it, dont jepordize someones future.
     
  5. slickman

    slickman keeping tan

    Different Take

    Before I read this thread, I thought that it was talking about the recruits that wait until Signing day to commit. My feeling, and Tressel intimated this in some comments he made right after signing day regarding rankings, is that Recruit Rankers keep raising their rankings of the guys who wait to commit.

    That might be a reason why FSU always does well in "rankings" because they seem to get all their committments right at the end- at least officially. I wonder if coaches would tell commits to drag their feet "officially" to increase their rankings. Sounds preposterous on the surface, but who knows?

    Regarding how Tressel and co. screen their recruits to ensure their eligibility, I can't really comment, but I would guess that he recruits a slightly different type player than Coop or Zook.
     
  6. Crump's brother

    Crump's brother Moxahala Park Carnie

    As an educator, I have to say that Barrett's Guidance Counselor didn't do his/her job. I have worked at 3 schools and would have to say that Guidance is quite possibly the shittiest run department in all 3.

    By the way, I'm on vacation until the last week in August. Grammar, punctuation, and professional behavior be damned!
     
  7. stxbuck

    stxbuck Woody wore Sambas

    Couple of points
    1-Someone needs to knock Martinsburg's guidance counselor upside the head. They should be 100% aware of what all the in-state schools require for frosh eligibility and such.

    2-It doesn't sound like Mr. Barrett is very academically inclined, given that he dropped Algebra II-certainly not the hardest math class in the world-as a senior. With his SAT scores, I'll bet he will struggle big time once he hits campus. Maybe its just as well he didn't commit-we would have had to yank his scholly in March as well.................................

    3-Florida,FSU,Miami,Alabama, etc. all oversign knowing that 4,5,6 etc. recruits will not make it. This is par for the course for these schools. Tressel doesn't want the headaches, so he makes sure everything is kosher before signing the kids, although you will still see Buckeyes who struggle-Hiley,Smith.. I don't think FSUBama,etc. are doing it for rankings, they are simply trying to get as many talented kids in their programs as possible, and know things will work out that way. Burger King Bobby would probably have a heart attack if every single recruit qualified.
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2004
  8. MightbeaBuck

    MightbeaBuck with hat in hand

    Can't hold down a job, eh?
    Oh, no wonder :wink2:
     
  9. Crump's brother

    Crump's brother Moxahala Park Carnie

    Mightbeabuck-I changed jobs because I wanted to. The first was a little close to home, I didn't like trips to the supermarket turning into Parent/Teacher conferences. The other two schools are in the same district. One a middle school, the other a high school. No real change there.

    As far as professional behavior, etc. I find all that stuff way overrated. At work, I always am professional. Bob Marley shirt tucked in, visine and ozium, I'm all set.
     
  10. stxbuck

    stxbuck Woody wore Sambas

    Close to home for the school-that's why I like teaching at the Catholic school that I do. If i am out and run into the parents they buy me a beer. Public schools are different.
     
  11. lvbuckeye

    lvbuckeye Silver Surfer

    no sh--... the '99 recruiting class lost SIX(!) recruits due to inability to qualify...
     
  12. CleveBucks

    CleveBucks Serenity now Staff Member

    Four non-qualifiers at WSU, including Randy Estes (#1 safety who was caught selling weed)
     
  13. LordJeffBuck

    LordJeffBuck Illuminatus Emeritus Staff Member

    Man, I'm glad that we don't have to go through that crap anymore.....
     
  14. Buckskin86

    Buckskin86 Moderator

    Olu Hall

    remember him??

     
  15. NoVABuck

    NoVABuck Newbie

    God works in mysterious ways???

    Of course it's not Olu's fault that he didn't qualify. God didn't want him to qualify because he has a plan. Hey, whatever makes you feel better.
     

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