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2005 '05 Ohio LB Lance Phillips

Discussion in 'Football Recruiting' started by Buckskin86, May 1, 2004.

  1. Buckskin86

    Buckskin86 Moderator

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    http://scout.theinsiders.com/a.z?s=145&p=8&c=1&nid=800661

    Ht: 6-2 Wt: 248 40: 4.61
    Position: LB
    Projected as: LB, DE
    High School: Wellston HS
    (Wellston, OH)
    Bench: 5 sets of 295
    Squats: 4-5 sets of 425-495
    Deadlift: 4-5 sets of 425-485

    Free Insider article

    Phillips, Travers, Long, Daniels and maybe Lenix (if he stays at LB)- pretty good selection of Ohio LB's!! :osu:
     
  2. BuckNutty

    BuckNutty Hear The Drummer Get Wicked Staff Member Bookie

    I'm not hung up on 40 times by any means but 4.9 for a MLB is just not gonna get it done, certainly not at Ohio State. Unless he significantly improves on that time I'd be suprised to see him get an offer, especially considering how much JT covets speed.
     
  3. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    Holy shit, I can run a damn 4.9 forty. Color this kid a non-offer.
     
  4. Buckskin86

    Buckskin86 Moderator

    if he doesn't have LB speed maybe he could move to the Dline??? he certainly seems strong enough

    http://woub.org/gridiron/playerofyear/phillips.html

     
  5. OSUBasketballJunkie

    OSUBasketballJunkie Never Forget 31-0

    I guarantee Coach T will offer when the time is right, he is the type of recruit he wants, someone who bleeds scarlet and gray, hopefully he gets a chance to chase his dream of playing in the Shoe.



    :osu:
     
  6. BuckNutty

    BuckNutty Hear The Drummer Get Wicked Staff Member Bookie

    The Insiders now has video of Phillips. It all comes from one game and is actually pretty impressive. He's a big time hitter. He read plays quickly, attacks the ball carrier and makes plays in the backfield. On one play he drops into the flat in coverage and made a nice interception. IMO the only thing holding him back is speed. Solid looking kid though and his stock could soar with an impressive camp outing, including a better 40 time.
     
  7. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    I wonder what A.J. Hawk's 40 time was in the camp prior to his senior year in high school? While A.J. is no speed-burner, he is certainly quick and reads and reacts superbly. Maybe this kid could be a Hawk-like diamond in the rough. He still needs to get that 40-time down, though...
     
  8. whs56

    whs56 Newbie

    Phillips numbers at OSU Sr. Camp 6/26/04:
    Vertical Jump - 35"
    Broad Jump - 8'4"
    Bench Press - 225# X 13 reps
    40 yd. Dash - 4.79
    20 yd. Shuttle - 4.44

    Phillips had a lame duck head coach until a new hire was made in late April, Heath Hinton, after the Ohio State Nike Camp. Following his hire Hinton organized workouts and implemented plyos, explosive lifts, agility drills etc. All had been lacking under previous coaches. This will be Phillips 3rd head coach in the last 3 years, which makes it rather difficult to become totally comfortable with a system. His freshman and sophomore years he played under OFCA HOF Coach Dave Lucas who placed emphasis on powerlifting. Phillips best competetive lifts this past year were: Bench- 360# @ Coal Grove SE Ohio Regional Meet, Squat- 615# @ Kenton State Meet (new state record in D4-D6 250# class), Deadlift- 575# @ Kenton tying state record. Last season's stats: 133 tackles while sitting the 2nd half of 3 games due to blowouts, 35 tackles for loss, 4 fumble recoveries and 3 ints. Phillips also long snapped for punts and placekicks until he was moved to punter the last 6 games w/ 15 punts for 40.87 yd. average.
     
  9. Buckeyejeff

    Buckeyejeff Newbie

    Watching his film I thought the same things as the above poster. This kid has the right makeup as far as size and strength is concerned. His on field performance was very impressive. The type of performance which would seem to warant a scholarship offer from a D1 school. So it must be his speed which is holding schools back. Abilities are number 1 in my book and speed number 2. However, I think the order is reversed for Tressel, and that seems to be working just fine. I feel like right now we are in the Top 10 or higher for team speed. In a few years I feel like we will be in the Top 5 easily. Tressel just keeps making this team faster.
     
  10. Buckskin86

    Buckskin86 Moderator

    Thanks for the info whs56!

    Glad to see the improved 40 time. It is also good to see his experience as a long snapper. That type of versatility might make the difference for a tOSU offer.

    Any insight to what the tOSU coaches are telling Lance?

    Good luck to him and hope he realizes his dream of becoming a Buckeye.
     
  11. whs56

    whs56 Newbie

    I think the coaches noted he can now outrun MililaniBuckeye (on a good day).

    No, I really don't have much insight into what tOSU coaches are telling him. He plays for a D4 school which doesn't help; though, the video available is vs. D2 Jackson which made it to the Regional Semis last season. In your above post re: info on Gridiron Glory POY finalists, the stats vs. Jackson indicate he wasn't out of his league.

    An assistant coach his freshman and sophmore years, Jay Lucas, is friends w/ Coach Snyder due to their Ironton roots. Coach Lucas was aggressive in promoting Phillips and kept in contact w/ Coach Snyder, even after his move to Coal Grove. Last season's coach didn't get Phillips' Nike Camp invite to him until registration for the OSU session had almost past. Lucas is the one who nominated Phillips for the '03 Nike Camp, the U.S. Army National Combine in San Antonio and the '04 Nike Camp.

    Phillips gets all the regular mailings and, I think they want tape from early games next season and see what happens with the offers they've already extended to the elite. Coaches Snyder and Fickel seemed to be paying close attention to Phillips, Travers and Long at Camp on 6/26/04. Phillips, I think, is just going to play his ass off this coming season and see what shakes out. Other schools are definitely showing more interest. He hasn't given up hope. Just realizes with the schollie situation and tOSU's national prominence, not every Ohio kid gets the opportunity to wear Scarlet and Grey.
     
  12. Buckskin86

    Buckskin86 Moderator

    Thanks again whs56!

    No doubt the Bucks are tight on schollies this year. The obvious key for Lance is how tOSU makes out with some of the OOS LB's they have offered (McCoy, Mathis, Cushing). But all those guys could play on the outside while Long and Phillips (Travers has committed to Iowa) are probably better suited for the MIKE. So maybe those two battle for one spot at the end of the recruiting season?

    If Lance is patient and has another good season he could get that dream offer (just like guys like Brandon Smith, Curtis Terry last year).

    I always root for the guys that dream of being Buckeyes.

    Keep us posted on how Lance is doing throughout the season.
     
  13. BuckeyeFromHecK

    BuckeyeFromHecK The Little Engine That Could

    umm well on insiders recruiting database it says Aj Hawk ran a 4.5 forty, so i doubt this guy is a diamond in the rough aj hawk type of guy its gonna be real hard to take that 40 down almost .3
     
  14. whs56

    whs56 Newbie

    And a young man rivals and theinsiders list as running a 4.7-4.8 I watched get outrun by at least a full stride in both runs at one camp. His times were 5.4-5.3. I heard the timers. Sometimes the gurus are misled, though the listings were not "event verified." You can't always believe what you read. I also believe how badly you want to get there and what you do on arrival can compensate for what some consider to be too slow. Good football instincts will also avoid extra steps.
     
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2004
  15. BuckNutty

    BuckNutty Hear The Drummer Get Wicked Staff Member Bookie

    whs, any chance Phillips moves to the d-line down the road, in your opinion?
     

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