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'06 OH SF Raymar Morgan (Michigan State Verbal)

bucknuts44820 said:
Per Lamb on BN........he feels Morgan will decide between Ohio State and Michigan State in the next few months. He believes he will choose OSU in the end.
Lamb sure picked a good time to start covering OSU bball :) But I love his input too, and he's honest when he has nothing new.

As you can see, I finally updated who should be the 5th member of the Thad 5 (I love Chi, but he's not the 5th).
 
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Lamb sure picked a good time to start covering OSU bball :) But I love his input too, and he's honest when he has nothing new.
I would have to agree with you.....at least he is honest.

I posted earlier in this thread that in my opinion, the longer this goes, the less chance for OSU. I haven't seen anything to change my mind about that.

scout.com$

7/27/05

More of the same.....four schools remain on his list...Michigan State, Michigan, Ohio State and Connecticut....when asked about joining the "Thad Five", he basically said he would have to see if and where he fits in.
 
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Here is my take on Morgan and the chances he selects OSU.....

Raymar has had an outstanding summer by all accounts and is being looked at by several big time schools, one of them being UConn, which according to Morgan is one of the schools he is looking at, but the reality is that he is very, very close to his family and does not want to stray to far from home.

His decision will come down to Michigan State or Ohio State. Michigan State is hanging their hat on the fact they offered first while Ohio State was busy chasing higher rated prospects, but that is not entirely true. Ohio State made it known to Morgan that if he improved his rebounding this summer and got it done in the classroom, which he has, then he would get an offer and thats exactly what happened.

Morgan, by all accounts is swaying back and forth between Michigan State and Ohio State. I just hope the idea of playing with this great class will be enough to sway him towards OSU in the end.

The more and more I read about Raymar the more and more I think he'll come into college at the 3
I would have to disagree with you here, I think Morgan will be a very good #4. He will have no problem rebounding in the Big Ten.
 
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Beacon Journal

7/28

Morgan, Johnson impress coaches in Las Vegas

By Darnell Mayberry

Beacon Journal sports writer


LAS VEGAS - The flight attendant stops at row nine. The exit row. He wants to make sure the passenger in seat D is at least 16.

Raymar Morgan looks up with his baby face. His shoulder-length cornrows covered by a black doo-rag and all-black Indians cap, Morgan nods.

He barely meets the regulation. Yet this 6-foot-8 inch, 210-pound athlete with a finely chiseled physique is one of the best high school basketball players in the country.

He sits next to his mother, Carole, and relaxes by listening to music with a set of headphones.

Nine rows back on the America West flight, Marcus Johnson is asleep. Morgan's good friend and teammate on the King James Shooting Stars is taking perhaps the most important flight of his life.

The two Akron-Canton-area stars are headed to Las Vegas, where Morgan, a senior at Canton McKinley, and Johnson, a senior at St. Vincent-St. Mary, will join thousands of the country's best high school basketball players.

They're gathering to chase their dreams of college basketball, and perhaps a professional career beyond.

But first there is Vegas, and the crucial hours of basketball that could attract the attention of that key college coach.

Morgan, Johnson and their teammates on the King James Shooting Stars, an AAU traveling team made up of area players and sponsored in part by LeBron James, are competing in a five-day basketball tournament called Main Event.

Nearly every college basketball coach in the country will be there.

Summer basketball tournaments, most sponsored by shoe companies, have become the proving grounds.

Playing to compete

Many of the nation's top coaches are sold on Morgan, who this past season led Canton McKinley to the Division I state championship in Ohio.

Morgan already has them giddy over his playing ability. Coaches from Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State and Connecticut have offered to fully fund his college education. He doesn't have to worry about impressing in Vegas or showing that he can compete against the nation's best players. He traveled to compete and have fun.

Morgan has the height of an NBA power forward, let alone a 16-year-old high school player.

But that's not all. Morgan is versatile. He shoots. He passes. He rebounds. He posts up. He even plays point guard at times.

Like many high school players, his 3-point shot needs improvement.

His AAU coach, Percy Robinson, says there is almost nothing Morgan can't do. If his team desperately needs a basket, Morgan comes through.

College coaches are amazed with Morgan's post moves and his ability to slash to the basket. They love his rebounding.

This mild-mannered, laid-back kid is approaching the Vegas tournament with the calm of an athlete who knows he has it made.

``They're going out to get whoever they feel is going to fit their team,'' Morgan said of college coaches. ``If you don't hurry up and make your decision, they might leave you behind.''

No one's leaving Morgan behind. And he knows it. He isn't going to make a decision until he's ready, which might not be until the early signing period begins in November. He didn't have to come to Las Vegas at all, and the offers would have still been there. But Morgan's a player and wants to compete.

``I'm just like everybody else; that's how I look at it,'' Morgan said. ``I've got a gift to play basketball, so I do.''

Not the same demand

Johnson has no such comfort zone. The demand for him isn't at the same level as it is for Morgan. Johnson, a 6-foot-2 senior guard, has naysayers.

Too short to be a shooting guard, they say. Doesn't dribble well enough to be a point guard. Doesn't have a consistent outside shot.

The University of Dayton has shown the most interest in Johnson, with Memphis, Xavier, Pittsburgh, St. Bonaventure, Akron and Kent State also looking at him.

``Right now, I truly think that I'm being under-recruited,'' Johnson said. ``It just makes me go out there and play harder and prove coaches wrong.''

Johnson is a phenomenal athlete who averaged 23.5 points and 7.3 rebounds this past season for the Irish. He's a slasher, relentless at attacking the basket. He soars above the rim for rebounds and dunks.

``Sometimes he jumps so high it scares me,'' said Dru Joyce, executive director of the Northeast Ohio Basketball Association, which founded the Shooting Stars.

So what separates Morgan from Johnson? Why isn't Johnson also heavily sought after?

The answer -- about six inches.

You don't find players every day who are 6-8 and can play on the wing. There are gymnasiums full of 6-2 shooting guards.

``Marcus is skilled and better than a lot of guys, but with him being 6-2 and more of a scoring guard than a point guard, coaches are a little leery,'' said Joyce, who also coaches Johnson at St. Vincent-St. Mary.

Exposure key for all

It's Friday afternoon and Morgan, Johnson and the rest of the King James Shooting Stars are in Durango High School's main gymnasium, preparing for their first tournament game in Vegas.

Tom Izzo, the coach at Michigan State is here. Michigan's Tommy Amaker, Ohio State's Thad Matta, University of Connecticut's Jim Calhoun and Dayton's Brian Gregoryaren't far behind.

NCAA rules prohibit college coaches from speaking to players or their coaches while at these tournaments. Their mission, however, is to be seen. And players take notice.

Izzo, sporting Michigan State apparel, stands on the sideline while the team warms up. The players all know who he is and why he's here.

The teams take the floor. Morgan, calm as ever, wins the jump ball. He is playing for fun.

Johnson scores within the first three minutes. He is playing for his future.

Epilogue

Morgan and Johnson score 18 apiece, putting on a good show for the coaches and getting revenge against a team from Houston, which they lost to over the summer last year.

Johnson bruised his shoulder, and that affected him the rest of the weekend.

They led the Shooting Stars to the final four of the Main Event before losing to the eventual champion Friends of Hoop out of Seattle.


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Messages for Darnell Mayberry can be left at 330-996-3800 or [email protected]
 
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bucknuts44820 said:
Here is my take on Morgan and the chances he selects OSU.....

Raymar has had an outstanding summer by all accounts and is being looked at by several big time schools, one of them being UConn, which according to Morgan is one of the schools he is looking at, but the reality is that he is very, very close to his family and does not want to stray to far from home.

His decision will come down to Michigan State or Ohio State. Michigan State is hanging their hat on the fact they offered first while Ohio State was busy chasing higher rated prospects, but that is not entirely true. Ohio State made it known to Morgan that if he improved his rebounding this summer and got it done in the classroom, which he has, then he would get an offer and thats exactly what happened.

Morgan, by all accounts is swaying back and forth between Michigan State and Ohio State. I just hope the idea of playing with this great class will be enough to sway him towards OSU in the end.


I would have to disagree with you here, I think Morgan will be a very good #4. He will have no problem rebounding in the Big Ten.
well said...I think Morgan will be a Buckeye once he officially visits OSU and get the red carpet rolled out and learns more about how Thad sees him fitting into the system with Oden, Conley, Cook and Lighty. I think that will be the clincher. anyone of the Michigan fans who thinks they have a legit shot at Raymar are kidding themselves. I think he just doesn't know how to tell Tommy Amaker that it isn't going to happen. Raymar is going to make a great B10 PF in either Columbus or East Lansing...
 
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well said...I think Morgan will be a Buckeye once he officially visits OSU and get the red carpet rolled out and learns more about how Thad sees him fitting into the system with Oden, Conley, Cook and Lighty. I think that will be the clincher. anyone of the Michigan fans who thinks they have a legit shot at Raymar are kidding themselves. I think he just doesn't know how to tell Tommy Amaker that it isn't going to happen. Raymar is going to make a great B10 PF in either Columbus or East Lansing...
I have to agree with you again wadc......I just think he wants to ensure he fits in with the group before he makes a decision because I feel he has always wanted to be a Buckeye. Matta can close with the best of them.
 
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8/4/05

Morgan is considered the #48 prospect in the Rivals.com Top 150 August update.

scout.com (free)

8/4/05

Interesting views on the Morgan recruitment...

Kyle S. Lamb (Aug 3, 2005 2:18:33 PM)
Dave, the most common question we get here obviously... and I'll throw this to you, what do you think the viable options remaining for the fifth spot (the PF position) in the 2006 recruiting class for Ohio State are besides Raymar Morgan

Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:20:20 PM)
Tough call. Morgan has earned the right to be that guy. Now, all the while as OSU waffled, Michigan State pressed him hard and has become a formidable foe. Macklin has been mentioned but IMO he won't go out of the Big East, ACC area. I know everyone wants the spot filled but think about this: wtih Guys like Chris Wright, Kosta and Lauderdale potentially in the mix the next year, what's the rush?

riverwatchbucknut (Aug 3, 2005 2:21:35 PM)
Dave what are the odds for OSU and MSU with regards to Raymar? Who would you compare his game to at the collegiate level?

Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:23:54 PM)
Another good question. Morgan is a tough one to compare to because one of the beauties of his game is that he's tough to nail down. For example, the ongoing "what position is he debate" rages. The correct answer is that he's a player. If he were a FB guy you might refer to him as an ATHLETE becuase he's multiple positions. To me, he wants to be convinced to stay close to home. I honestly don't know whether he picks OSU or MSU at this point. He's been a tough read. Quiet kid who has consistently been a tough read. Sorry so vague.

SteveHelwagen (Aug 3, 2005 2:22:36 PM)
Dave, welcome to Bucknuts, we appreciate everything the Scout guys -- both football and basketball -- do for our site. Want to ask if you think Ohio State's decision to wait on offering Morgan will be a huge factor in his decision. He says the visits will be a big factor, I know. As they say on the radio, I'll hang up and listen (ha ha). Thanks again for all you guys do. Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:25:09 PM)
Steve, appreciate the note. I think the decision to wait on offering him initially steamed him a little. Remember, at the time he was playing at a high level and was probably thinking an offer should "come any day now." OSU was patient and to me, one of the predictors is exactly what you are talking about: inwardly was he too offended to take the offer? I frankly can't tell yet.
 
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INDIANAPOLIS — Robbie Hummel is a high-school junior from Valparaiso, Ind. He grew up a fan of Purdue, but, as he continues to grow, has expanded his horizons.

He was 6 feet 5 not long ago. He is 6-7 now and growing into the kind of long and lean perimeter player Ohio State basketball coach Thad Matta covets.

En route from New Jersey to Atlanta during the first week of the summer evaluation period, Matta stopped at the Nike All-America camp in Indianapolis last week to scout Hummel, among others. Hummel, with two more years of high-school ball to play, said he has been in touch with the OSU staff but has not been offered a scholarship. He said he’s "extremely" interested in the program.

What kid would not be right now? If Ohio State does not receive a commitment from another player in the class of 2006, it already has the year’s best recruiting class and one of the best of recent times. Commitments less than two weeks ago from 7-foot Greg Oden and point guard Mike Conley of Indianapolis, added to earlier nods from wings Daequan Cook of Dayton and David Lighty of Cleveland, give the Buckeyes four of the top 26 prospects in the class, according to a consensus of five recruiting rankings. Oden ranks No. 1 on the list and Cook is No. 8.

"That class is unbelievable," Hummel said. "But then you have to say to yourself, ‘Will I even get to play with that team?’ They’re loaded. So I guess it’s kind of a double-edged sword."

That’s the fine line Matta and his staff walk as they try to, one, put the finishing touches on their recruiting Class of 2006 and, two, build on it with another layer of stars from the class of 2007.

The first of the two 10-day evaluation periods in July started Wednesday with elite invitational camps in Indianapolis, Atlanta and Teaneck, N.J. The second period, July 22-31, includes AAU team tournaments in Las Vegas, Orlando and Los Angeles.

Matta and his staff have three scholarships left to offer the Class of 2006 and another three for 2007. While acknowledging the NCAA could take one or more of those in sanctioning the program for the transgressions of the previous coaching staff, Matta said he has not been told that is inevitable. And if all of the scholarships are spoken for before penalties are levied, he added, "I don’t think they can take (away a commitment) we’ve already got."

For the moment, he and his assistants are working hardest at getting a commitment from an elite power forward to complete a so-called Thad Five class of 2006 that recruiting analysts say would eclipse Michigan’s 1991 Fab Five as the best ever — or at least since classes began being ranked 25 years ago.

Highest on the list of power forwards appear to be two top-10 prospects, 6-8 Thaddeus Young of Memphis, Tenn., and 6-8 Vernon Macklin of Portsmouth, Va., and 6-7 Luke Harangody of Merrillville, Ind. Harangody is rumored to be leaning elsewhere, however. He skipped the Nike camp and could commit as soon as this week, his father said, to Notre Dame, Purdue or Ohio State.

Next on that list could be 6-8 Raymar Morgan of Canton McKinley, who has not been offered a scholarship but could be soon if he continues competing as aggressively around the basket as he did the first two days of the Nike camp. He said OSU coaches told him earlier this summer to "rebound the heck out of the basketball."

Morgan, who has been offered scholarships by Michigan State and Michigan, said he is intrigued by the possibility of being the fifth member of an unparalleled recruiting class.

"Those guys are all very gifted," he said. "It would be a pleasure to play with them."

But what about following them to Ohio State? Could their presence steer the studs of the class of 2007 elsewhere for playing time, as Hummel suggested? Highly rated guard Eric Gordon of Indianapolis, who plays on the same AAU team with Conley, Cook and Oden, does not list the Buckeyes among his favorites, possibly for that reason.

Matta said he does not think it is difficult to attract two great classes back-to-back.

"If you look at elite programs, that’s what they do," he said. "I think good players want to play with good players. I think that’s become a trend. You see that in the NBA now. Guys want to win."

That opinion is shared by one of the rising talents in the Class of 2007, 7-foot Kosta Koufos of Canton GlenOak. A few months ago, Koufos was rated a Mid-American Conference prospect. After an impressive spring on the AAU circuit and an MVP performance at a national tournament in St. Louis last month, he has offers from Ohio State, Michigan, Xavier and Miami (Fla.) and interest from Duke, Maryland, Illinois and Stanford.

Koufos’ comments in Indianapolis seemed to imply that Ohio State, even if Oden sticks around for more than a year, might be the team to beat for a kid whose parents graduated from the university and who grew up a Buckeyes fan.

"That national championship is all I care about," he said. "If I (sit on) the bench and don’t play at all, winning is the goal."

Koufos also spoke of potentially teaming inside with another highly rated Ohioan in his class, 6-8 Dallas Lauderdale of Solon. He and Lauderdale are part of a talented 2007 in-state class that also includes 6-4 O.J. Mayo, 6-5 Bill Walker and 6-11 Keenan Ellis of Cincinnati North College Hill, 6-5 Chris Wright of Trotwood and 6-6 Jon Diebler of Upper Sandusky.

"We’ve got all the Ohio people coming to Ohio State," Koufos said. Or, in Matta’s dreams, at least as many as he has room for.
 
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Ohio State got some good news and some bad news last week.

The good came when the Web site rivals.com announced its player rankings after the July evaluation period, and the Buckeyes were the only school in the nation with four five-star recruits in the 2006 class.

Led by the nation's No. 1 player, 7-foot Greg Oden, the class includes Oden and point guard Mike Conley, teammates at Lawrence North; Dayton shooting guard Daequan Cook and Cleveland shooting guard David Lighty.

"The class without Oden is impressive, but when you throw in the most dominating big man to hit the NCAA scene in the last 10 years, you have the makings of a class that can change the dynamics of a program for years to come," the Web site wrote in assessing coach Thad Matta's class.

Already, some players from the Class of 2007 who were mentioning only recent national championship teams such as Duke, North Carolina and Connecticut, are adding Ohio State to their list, according to rivals.com, which has scouts at all the major summer events.

The bad news for the Buckeyes is that their class won't include 6-8 forward Thaddeus Young from Memphis, Tenn. The nation's No. 3-ranked player sent out a news release last week that he narrowed his list to Arkansas, Duke, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, Memphis, North Carolina and Tennessee.

The Buckeyes, who have three scholarships to give if they choose, appear to be targeting 6-8 forward Raymar Morgan, Canton, Ohio. Morgan has been saying he plans to visit Connecticut, Michigan, Michigan State and Ohio State.

Oden update

At the Las Vegas Big Time Tournament, some of the nation's top college coaches continued to rave about how well Oden handles himself while being the center of attention everywhere he goes.

Even in Las Vegas, with no shortage of entertainment, gyms were full almost every game for eventual champion Spiece Indy Heat, led by Oden, Conley and Cook. After each game, Oden was besieged by people wanting autographs and pictures.

One high school coach from the Las Vegas area had Oden sign a basketball to be auctioned off at a fundraiser.

College coaches can't speak on the record about players who haven't signed national letters of intent.

"It's going to be nice for America to have Greg Oden," said Mike Conley Sr., coach of the Spiece Indy Heat. "At the end of the day, Greg Oden will help a lot of people in this country. He will be an icon you want your kids to look up to, and that means a lot to me.

"I remember (my son) Michael really liked Wake Forest, and when I met Chris Paul, I was like, 'Oh, man, it's great to have my son look up to a person like Chris Paul.' And it's going to be great to have our kids look up to a person like Greg Oden."

Personality emerging

Oden, shy and quiet a year ago, is getting pretty quotable, even when handling questions that could get him in trouble.

After the Indy Heat won the Las Vegas tournament, Oden was asked how a national summer title compared to a state championship. In Las Vegas, Oden faced more nationally ranked players in five days than he'll play against all year during the high school season, but he gave a politically correct answer.

"After the state championship, you go home after the game. After this, hopefully I get to ride (the roller coaster at) New York-New York (Hotel & Casino). Every year since we've been here, coach Conley takes us there."

"That's pretty extreme for him," Conley Sr. said. "Usually you hear him say, 'Maybe I can catch a flick, maybe two.' He barely fits in a roller coaster."

Tourney canceled

The Best of Summer, a tournament that follows Las Vegas in California, was canceled midway through play when a player from New York collapsed and died after a game.

Miguel Respress, a senior from Niagara Falls, N.Y., died outside the Gersten Pavilion at Loyola Marymount, according to news accounts.

Call Star reporter Jeff Rabjohns at (317) 444-6183 or e-mail<SCRIPT language=JavaScript><!--document.write(''+'jeff.rabjohns'+'@'+'indystar.com.'+'');//--></SCRIPT> [email protected].
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