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'06 Ohio OL (Split and Merged)

Discussion in 'College Football' started by wadc45, Mar 15, 2005.

  1. wadc45

    wadc45 Bourbon, Bow Ties and Baseball Hats Staff Member BP Recruiting Team

    '06 Ohio OL (Split)

    I may have to adjust my rankings. Tilley may indeed be the #3 or #4 OL in the state. Maybe he gets an offer at camp? If he doesn't, it's because (as I think we will) we get Brown, Boren and Smith. I can't put him ahead of Connor yet because of Connor's video against Antwon Hight. He just owned him. But obviously Georgia and Oklahoma have seen a different video of Tilley than I have seen. I thought Palmer's was better, but Tilley is obviously impressing a lot of people right now. But I think it is safe to say that Tilley is higher rated at this point than Palmer. I think I may also have Browning too low. Maybe my list should have looked more like this. Same 10 guys, but just a touch different order:

    1. Aaron Brown
    2. Justin Boren
    3. Connor Smith
    4. Lee Tilley
    5. Ryan Palmer
    6. Bryant Browning
    7. Bill Nagy
    8. Chris Meenan
    9. Chad Schofield
    10. DJ Burris

    Also in contention: Clark Crum, Bob Gulley, Mark Jackson, Yianna Karvounides

    Didn't rank Jake Ballard or Torrence Nicholson because I think they end up as DT recruits.
     
  2. EXBEARCAT

    EXBEARCAT Newbie

    There are 2 groups of prospects in Ohio on the OL

    Top Prospects:
    Aaron Brown 25+ Offers
    Justin Boren 11 Offers
    Lee Tilley 9 Offers
    Connor Smith 2 Offers

    I am wondering where are all of Connor Smith's offers?


    Everyone Else:
    Ryan Palmer 0 Offers
    Bryant Browning 1 Offer (Iowa, but I question because if Iowa really offered, wouldn't other schools have followed?)
    Bill Nagy 0 Offers
    Chris Meenan 0 Offers
    Chad Schofield 1 Offer (Pitt)
    DJ Burris 0 Offers


    This group of players are Big East at best.

    Palmer is overrated. I saw his tape. Nothing special. Not enough to put him with the other Top Prospects. If his tape was that good, he would have some offers. He has none including MAC.
     
  3. wadc45

    wadc45 Bourbon, Bow Ties and Baseball Hats Staff Member BP Recruiting Team

    I agree that there are two groups of OL in the state, and I think you broke them out correctly at this point. But having also seen Palmer's video, I think you are dismissing him WAY too early. It's March and a lot can happen. I think he has the potential, from a physical and technique standpoint, to develop into the type of recruit that may not necessarily garner offers from the Oklahoma's and Georgia's of the world like Tilley, but will at least see offers from other Big 10 schools.

    There is no question though that Tilley should be mentioned along with Brown, Boren and Smith.
     
  4. wadc45

    wadc45 Bourbon, Bow Ties and Baseball Hats Staff Member BP Recruiting Team

    Breakdown

    The fact is that we are probably only going to take 4 or at most 5 OL in this class. Most likely 2 tackles, 2 guards, and possibly one "best available". Assuming we get the big 3 (we all know everyone from Nevada to DL is predicting this), and excluding out-of-state recruits for now (eventhough I would love to get someone like J.B. Walton), here is how I see things shaking out:

    Tackle:
    Aaron Brown
    ???????????

    Guard:
    Justin Boren
    Connor Smith

    Best Available:
    ???????????

    For some reason I just don't see us offering Tilley (eventhough everyone else seems to want him). I could definitely be wrong about that, but considering a lot of big time schools have offered and we haven't, I just don't see it happening. If we were going to offer, why would be wait until after Georgia and Oklahoma, among others, have offered? Not the kind of message you send to an in-state kid if you are planning on offering. Which leaves Meenan, Palmer, Ballard, and Browning as possible candidates for the last one or maybe two spots. I think Palmer and Meenan will be in contention for the last tackle spot. Ballard may as well, although he is pretty versatile, and could get a look at TE or DL. The only way someone gets that 5th offer is if they are an absolute stud. Could be the other one of Meenan and Palmer that doesn't get the 2nd tackle spot, could be Browning (if he is as good as Coach Ginn thinks he is), could be a blue-chip OOS recruit (c'mon down, J.B.!). That is just my take on the situation, for what it's worth...
     
  5. snake charmer

    snake charmer Newbie

    ex bearcat your offer amount is wrong for boren. hes had 13 offers as of a couple days ago per cris pool.
     
  6. tsteele316

    tsteele316 Mr. Such and Such

    you know wad, i kind of get that same feeling about tilley for some reason.

    maybe camp will change things. if he doesnt garner an offer after camp, then he probably isnt going to get one. he may be this season's brandon braxton, although i think osu offered him, but then basically cut ties with him thereafter.


    also, duane long like nagy as a DT better, and he said that is the position he's listing him at in ohio high and in his rankings. his tape is up on scout.com at both positions i believe. he looks like he can be disruptive in the middle at times.

    osu needs another DT in this class, we are starting to get top heavy in depth.
     
  7. wadc45

    wadc45 Bourbon, Bow Ties and Baseball Hats Staff Member BP Recruiting Team

    as usual, we are on the same page. I plan to do a similar breakdown for the in-state DL soon, which will not be limited to names like Ballard, Tony Reed, Rob Rose, Lamar Mapp, John Ryan, and Martin Channels, but will also include names like Browning, Nagy, Mark Jackson, Clark Crum, Torrence Nicholson, and other guys that may get a look on the defensive side of the ball.
     
  8. EXBEARCAT

    EXBEARCAT Newbie

    Well the post was old. I checked scout and Rivals before I posted those numbers. Also Tilley is up to 10 Offers now.
     
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2005
  9. snake charmer

    snake charmer Newbie

    i don't think that coaches go by how many offers kids have gotten as to whether they pull the trigger and offer themselves. beauty is in the eye of the beholder and i really think if osu was going to offer tilley they would have done so by now. but if he performs well at osu camp or nike combine then they might change their minds and offer then.
     
  10. funman

    funman Rookie

    I agree. There are too many variables to for a coach to issue scholarships on a me too basis. Schools have a different number of scholarships available in a given year and different needs by position on the roster. There are other considerations such as admissions and will the athlete fit in with the rest of the team? I think the OSU staff proved its ability to evaluate talent. It also has shown the ability to resist the temptation to offer a tremendous athlete such as Javon Ringer when the player would probably not be able to matriculate through school and contribute to the team.
     
  11. ScarletFever

    ScarletFever Newbie

    I agree with most of your post...however this assumption is not fair...Unless you are with staff please don't make statements like this. Javon is a great kid who I believe and hope will have a great and succesfull college experience at MSU. Support and encourage the kids thats all I'm saying (OSU bound or not).
     
  12. snake charmer

    snake charmer Newbie

    i also believe that brown is receiving more offers than boren & smith because both of those guys have stated from the get go that its going to be between osu & um. so alot of schools aren't going to waste a scholly on someone whos definately not interested in attending their school. plus the browns have put alot of time and effort into going around to all the schools to make them believe browns interested in them. bogus....as i believe brown is going to be a buckeye.. brown is just enjoying the whole experience to the max.
     
  13. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    Uh, an offer isn't a scholarship. I'd offer any player I was really wanting to have play on my team, regardless if he did or didn't express interest in my program...if he ends up accepting my offer, then that's a huge bonus, but if he doesn't, I haven't lost anything.
     
  14. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    yes and no... sure you'd offer the kid but you wouldn't devote many resources to recruiting him if you had no shot at him... therefore the offer is basically just a nice gesture. But obviously every school in the world should offer devine in 07 IMO.
     
  15. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    snake charmer wasn't talking abut "resources"...he said offering someone who most likely wouldn't accept it is a waste of a scholarship, which it isn't.
     

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