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'09 CA SG Roberto Nelson (Oregon St. verbal)

crazybuckfan40;1171412; said:
If we were to offer here we would be in good shape...It really depends on what direction the staff wants to go in the 09' class...A commitment here would end all chances of Sibert being apart of the 2010 class...
I don't know where you're getting all the scholarships:). I don't know where we stand with the kid from Iowa State but I think we are very very close to maxing ourselves out on scholarships for 2010. With that said, back to Nelson.
 
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LitlBuck;1171487; said:
I don't know where you're getting all the scholarships:). I don't know where we stand with the kid from Iowa State but I think we are very very close to maxing ourselves out on scholarships for 2010. With that said, back to Nelson.

I think we will go with one in 09'...It is hard to tell where that one will go...Nelson is in the running tho...
 
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In the age of Facebook, Twitter and texting, top prospect - 08.03.09 - SI Vault

Article on the role of mail in Nelson's recruiting process. Interesting little nugget here:

The closest any school came to truly personal correspondence were a few letters from Ohio State. The Buckeyes' coaches sent cards following up on phone conversations they had initiated with Nelson or his father, Bruce, who grew up in Columbus.

Roberto,

Your family knows as well as anyone how passionate Columbus is about the Buckeyes. You and your teammates are the show in town. Being a Buckeye is a very special honor.

Go Bucks,

Coach [John] Groce

P.S. Great job in summer school?B in Algebra!

Some other highlights:

With that as the high point it is no wonder that on most days Nelson heaved the latest bundle behind the recliner without even a cursory look. In all, he opened only 387 pieces of mail, or about 18%. (He later permitted SI to open the sealed letters.)

Gleason used a paper calculator created by the Environmental Defense Fund to estimate the environmental impact of the 135 pounds of paper used to recruit Nelson. Next he estimated the impact of the paper being sent to all Division I hoops recruits in a given year.

His computation began with the average weight of paper each college sent to Nelson, which was 2.4 pounds. Most schools send mail to at least 100 players in each class (according to three recruiters who spoke to SI) and are targeting two classes (juniors and seniors) simultaneously. If each of the 347 Division I basketball programs sends 2.4 pounds of mail annually to 200 kids, the environmental impact each year of the production of that paper, according to Gleason's analysis, would be:

? the consumption of 220 tons of wood, the equivalent of about 1,526 trees;

? greenhouse gas emissions equal to what 39 cars produce in a year, and the use of enough energy to power 32 homes for a year;

? and 167,034 pounds of solid waste, which would fill six garbage trucks, and 1,423,939 gallons of wastewater, the equivalent of two swimming pools' full.

Noting the environmental cost compared to the number of letters Nelson opened, Gleason asked the obvious question: "If recruits don't open the letters, why keep sending them? Why waste all that money and paper?"

Some schools might soon ask themselves the same thing. In May, Michigan and Ohio State jointly announced that they would cease printing media guides. Bygones from the pre-Internet age, these publications contain as many as 208 pages (the NCAA-mandated maximum) of records, stats, player biographies and other team information that is now also readily available electronically. Long a recruiting tool, they are no longer of much value on that front either. (Nelson received 44 guides and says he looked at "one or two.")

During the summer before his senior year of high school, Nelson met Oregon State coach Craig Robinson, better known as President Barack Obama's brother-in-law. Robinson called Nelson four times last fall and went to Santa Barbara to visit him in September. In November, Nelson spurned UCLA and Ohio State and signed a letter of intent to play for the Beavers.

How many pieces of recruiting mail did Robinson and Oregon State send Nelson?

Zero.
 
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As far as I know, the tOSU staff never offered Nelson a ship, so its a stretch to say he SPURNED a school that never got to the point of offering him. I don't know if UCLA did or not.

I don't blame him for not opening all that mail if most of it was form letters or non-personal generic mailings, who wants to wade through that?

They probably should have edited out the comment on his grade and I hope they asked groce for permission to publish that!
 
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We don't think there's a violation'

A new book, Play Their Hearts Out, by Sports Illustrated writer George Dohrmann, follows a group of talented young basketball players from southern California from the time they were 10 until they were ready to choose where to play in college, and a lot of what happens in between in the often-shady underworld of grass-roots basketball.

One of the players, 6-foot-3 guard Roberto Nelson of Santa Barbara, was recruited by Ohio State but, according to Rivals.com and Scout.com, never offered a scholarship (despite the book's assertion to the contrary). Knowing what little I did about Nelson during the recruiting process, he supposedly has relatives in Columbus, and his father, Bruce, may have played high school basketball in the city. I never dug further because I never had the impression the kid was a high priority for Ohio State.

http://blog.dispatch.com/hoopsscoops/2010/10/we_dont_think_theres_a_violati_1.shtml

Ohio State didn?t couch their interest in Roberto. Coach Thad Matta offered him a scholarship when he visited campus for the Ohio State-Michigan football game in November, and one of assistants began working with Bruce to make sure Roberto had the course credits he needed to be eligible to play for the Buckeyes as a freshman. He reviewed Roberto?s transcripts and advised Bruce on what summer school courses Roberto should take. Like UCLA, Ohio State also violated an NCAA rule pursuing Roberto: Former Ohio State player and CBS college basketball analyst Clark Kellogg called Bruce and lobbied on behalf of his alma mater. (As a former Ohio State player he was forbidden under NCAA guidelines from contacting recruits or their families.) ?I heard that the missing piece to the puzzle was a kid in California,? Kellogg told Bruce.

http://georgedohrmann.com/blog/id/555/UCLA-and-Ohio-State-NCAA-Violations
 
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