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'10 OH OL Matt James (Notre Dame Signee - RIP)

Discussion in 'College Football' started by X Buckeyes07 X, Aug 30, 2007.

  1. The senior spring break Panama trip has been almost a rite of passage for X guys for years. According to the Chicago Tribune article, there were some parents nearby. In all fairness, he was off to college in 2-3 some point you have to take off the training wheels.

    "Gary Massa said his told him James had died from the fall. He added that St. Xavier parents staying nearby the students had gathered James' classmates on the trip and brought in a chaplain to help work through the tragedy."

    Notre Dame football recruit dies after balcony fall - Chicago Breaking Sports

    I really hope you aren't just posting speculation as fact, because I've heard a couple different things from people who are close enough to know and no one has said this. It may end up being less innocent, but I know that the railings on the balconies at that particular hotel have been in terrible shape for years. A friend of mine actually complained to the hotel about it when he was there a few years back, and I've read of people from X talking about how poor of shape they were in as long as 10 years ago.
  2. chibucks

    chibucks Newbie

    Thought that I posted in this thread already. Prayers go put to his family and extended family. Unreal and terribly tragic news... Hoped it wasn't true.
  3. BuckeyeGuy513

    BuckeyeGuy513 Rookie

    There was no balcony jumping from what I heard. He was leaning over the railing, trying to talk to someone on the floor below and the railing gave away. Remember he was nearly a 300lb kid. Tragedy.. he will be missed.
  4. Boilers Fan

    Boilers Fan Newbie

    I agree that at some point you have to take off the training wheels, but I disagree that age 17,18 (while the kid is still living under the parents roof, presumably) is the time to do it. Perhaps when they go off to college or when they have the money to get their own place.
  5. Steve19

    Steve19 Watching. Always watching. Staff Member

    He was to turn 18 next week. Apparently, there were parents staying nearby to watch over these kids.
  6. Honor&Glory

    Honor&Glory Paper,Rock, Scissors, Lizard, Spock!

  7. cincibuck

    cincibuck You kids stay off my lawn!

    Oh Steve, You must older than me. My wife taught at Ursuline Academy, the sister school to St. X. Kids there had a "Countdown to Spring Break" calendar on the front window beginning on the first day of each school year. Florida was where the "poor kids" went. Jamaica, Bermuda, and Mexican resorts were favored.

    I was assigned to Moeller for 20 years and our ADM (average daily matriculation) figures took such significant hits on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving, the last day before Christmas break, and the week before Spring break that the school gave up. Veterans' Day became a school day and Thanksgiving started on Tuesday afternoon. Teachers were forbidden to have exams on the final day before any break. Administration tried reducing spring break to Thursday, Good Friday and the Monday after only to have an open revolt from students and their parents.

    Any suburban school system faces similar problems.
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2010
  8. 3074326

    3074326 Urban Legend

    I know when I went to Myrtle Beach for my senior trip, there were no chaperons and we had a pretty absurd amount of alcohol. Not that this matters when talking about the chaperons. But I'm not surprised. It's more common than it seems people think. When we went it was about 20 17-18 year olds with a ton of alcohol and no adult supervision. I know plenty of schools whose graduating seniors do this.

    Accidents like this one are terrible, but not as surprising as they should be, unfortunately.. :(

    A kid fell in Myrtle Beach during my senior trip (a couple hotels down, didn't know him).
  9. CentralMOBuck

    CentralMOBuck Senior

    I don't think he's talking about the days off. More about going to a place where college kids normally go at this time and party.
  10. cincibuck

    cincibuck You kids stay off my lawn!

    Sorry, I believe the two go hand in hand. Should have stated that in my post. Holidays (with a small h, as in vacations) get pushed in front of school and kids are given a great deal of freedom to strike out on their own. 'Chaperones?' That gets a wink and a nod from my experience.

    Similarly, it was not unusual to work with a student whose parents were out of town on vacation for a week or two weeks and the kid was left in charge of the home.

    I don't know about St X, but parents letting kids go on spring break was pretty common at Moeller and Ursuline, two situations I was personally involved with.

    So were situations where parents either provided beer or ignored the fact that it was present. A huge German Catholic presence in this town makes beer a part of almost all social occasions and few parents see a problem with it. "They need to learn how to drink," is a commonly heard explanation.

    Just a couple of years back students from an excellent suburban school were turned in by their chaperone for drinking while in Europe. Parents defended the students and they were exonerated.
  11. starBUCKS

    starBUCKS BPCFFB League #2 League Champion 2008 & 2010

    Notre Dame Fighting Irish recruit Matt Jame was drunk before fatal fall, police say - ESPN
  12. Boilers Fan

    Boilers Fan Newbie

    :shake: Call me uptight, paranoid, whatever you like...but my children will not be permitted to go anywhere for spring break during their high school years without direct adult supervision. I don't understand why any logical parent would allow this to happen. I've heard of too many "accidents" like this over the years, my kid is not going to be a statistic.
    jlb1705 and JCOSU86 like this.
  13. ysubuck

    ysubuck Be water my friend.

    Something like this seems to happen every year during spring break. My question is: Why are the balconies open for these kids to go out?

    I Went to Fort Meyers and Daytona in high school and college. We were on the ground floor one year but the following years we were on the 6th and 8th floors of hotels. In each of the hotels the balcony was locked up so we couldn't get out there. I mean locked up with several industrial size pad locks and a big sign warning us that if we attempted to get out onto the balcony we would be removed from the hotel and our money would not be refunded.
  14. stxbuck

    stxbuck Woody wore Sambas

    RIP my Bomber brother.

    The situation Cincibuck describes is prevalent at the Hs I used to teach at as well. A large group of parents would rent a condo, and then let their kids all share another. Siesta Key was/is the destination of choice.
    Sadly, kids do not realize that alcohol and 50 foot drops don't mix. A year or two ago a very popular student from Tipp City/OhioU tried to jump from balcony to bacony at a hotel, and, unfortunately, fell to her death while intoxicated. These kind of spring break shenaigans happen to the "best" kids in school-athletes,leaders,etc-it isn't a case of being raised wrong by parents-although I'm sure the parents question themselves everytime a tragedy like this happen.

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