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'18 MO SG Torrence Watson (Ohio State decommit, Mizzou Verbal)

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OSU_Buckguy said:
yes, please. good shooter. good off the dribble. athletic. but what i like most is how he sprints back after made shots.
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What I love most is that he is an attacking guard, I love shooters but boy do I miss having someone other than our power forward, who can't shoot free throws attacking the rim for possible trips to the line... Me like lots!
 
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OSU_Buckguy said:
i looked for some shooting percentages for watson. i couldn't find any. however, i did see that he made 18-of-21 free throws one game.
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That is something we've rarely had here, Russell, Lighty and Evan Turner are the main players that come to mind so it has been very few far in between... but hopefully Holtmann will emphasize this in recruiting guards to play here because you need to be able to do this in the tournament instead of relying on jump shooting too much when the body is tired and wearing down.
 
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MARVYMARV14 said:
That is something we've rarely had here, Russell, Lighty and Evan Turner are the main players that come to mind so it has been very few far in between... but hopefully Holtmann will emphasize this in recruiting guards to play here because you need to be able to do this in the tournament instead of relying on jump shooting too much when the body is tired and wearing down.
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Are you saying Lighty was a good FT shooter? He was a career 63% at the line! Ideally, you want your guards at least 75% or better, which is right where Russell and ET were.
 
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Ohio State basketball: St. Louis guard puts Buckeyes on revised ‘final’ list

Before the offseason leading into his senior year, Torrence Watson had a final list of his top eight schools. But after releasing the list on Twitter, the four-star shooting guard from Whitfield School in St. Louis was surprised to see Butler coach Chris Holtmann take the Ohio State job after Thad Matta was fired after 13 seasons.

Now, the 6-foot-5, 195-pound Watson has a list of his top nine schools — and it includes Ohio State, thanks to the relationships he has built with Holtmann and assistant coach Mike Schrage.

“I talk to coach Schrage just about every day and coach Holtmann just about every other day, so we’ve built a pretty close relationship with them being at Butler and now at Ohio State,” Watson told The Dispatch. “It didn’t matter what school they went to, I think that relationship would still have been there and the possibility of me playing for them someday.”

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“(The official visit to OSU) went really well,” he said of this week’s visit. “I was expecting it to be a really huge campus but it was different. I enjoyed all parts of the visit. We visited the school (and also) met with an academic adviser. We pretty much saw everything.”

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“Schrage and coach Holtmann have both seen him play last year when they were at Butler. I think they have a good understanding of what he can do and I think that’s why they extended the offer at Ohio State because they definitely have a need, from what I understand, at the 2.”

The Buckeyes have no commitments for the class of 2018 and five available scholarships. Watson said he’s not in a hurry to make a decision.

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of all the shooting guards i've seen, watson is the one i want the most. goodwin is very good and a local committing to osu would be good for the program, but watson's playmaking and ballhandling abilities are at least one notch above goodwin's. a pure point guard and watson in the '18 class should satisfy the backcourt needs. a pure point guard and goodwin may, as well; however, goodwin doesn't project as a combo guard who will exploit offenses off the dribble or provide adequate ballhandling relief. according to watson's coach, torrence is working toward being a combo guard. goodwin, on the other hand, i think will remain in the shooting guard position. if either player were a couple inches taller, i think holtmann would take a commitment from both. as it is, though, i foresee holt taking only one 6'4"ish shooting/combo guard.
 
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I like your analysis, however since Dane appears more adept at playing off the ball compared to the other guards like Watson, combined with the lack of SGs on the team, I don't necessarily view them as an either-or.

OSU_Buckguy said:
of all the shooting guards i've seen, watson is the one i want the most. goodwin is very good and a local committing to osu would be good for the program, but watson's playmaking and ballhandling abilities are at least one notch above goodwin's. a pure point guard and watson in the '18 class should satisfy the backcourt needs. a pure point guard and goodwin may, as well; however, goodwin doesn't project as a combo guard who will exploit offenses off the dribble or provide adequate ballhandling relief. according to watson's coach, torrence is working toward being a combo guard. goodwin, on the other hand, i think will remain in the shooting guard position. if either player were a couple inches taller, i think holtmann would take a commitment from both. as it is, though, i foresee holt taking only one 6'4"ish shooting/combo guard.
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OSU_Buckguy said:
of all the shooting guards i've seen, watson is the one i want the most. goodwin is very good and a local committing to osu would be good for the program, but watson's playmaking and ballhandling abilities are at least one notch above goodwin's. a pure point guard and watson in the '18 class should satisfy the backcourt needs. a pure point guard and goodwin may, as well; however, goodwin doesn't project as a combo guard who will exploit offenses off the dribble or provide adequate ballhandling relief. according to watson's coach, torrence is working toward being a combo guard. goodwin, on the other hand, i think will remain in the shooting guard position. if either player were a couple inches taller, i think holtmann would take a commitment from both. as it is, though, i foresee holt taking only one 6'4"ish shooting/combo guard.
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I can't see how they can't take 3 guards in '18 barring Ayala coming in. CJ Jackson is currently the only guard in '18.

No Ayala.. and I think they go something like this for '18

PG
Combo
SG
Hunter
Big who can play PF and C
 
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DZ83CK said:
I don't necessarily view them as an either-or.
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Egger33 said:
I can't see how they can't take 3 guards in '18 barring Ayala coming in.
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yeah, i was even debating/disagreeing with myself when i submitted the recent post. if holt goes to a 5-person class, two 6'4"-6'6" shooting guards/forwards make sense. in a 4-person class, i don't see it, though... unless ayala commits to osu for '17. a true point guard is a necessity. a combo guard/forward will obviously be in the class. a 6'7"-6'9" forward of some sort (like hunter) will be in the class. finally, funderburk's departure especially makes a 4/5 a necessity. therefore, a fifth commitment as a second shooting guard/forward appears to fit. i just want for one of them to be a little taller than 6'4". or at least have a long wingspan like lenzelle had (6'9"), which eric hunter seems to have. ideally, one of the two shooting guards/forwards would by lighty-esque. jallow also fits here. ahrens sorta kinda does, too, but i think that ship has sailed for both sides.



No Ayala.. and I think they go something like this for '18

PG
Combo
SG
Hunter
Big who can play PF and C
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that makes complete sense. with ayala, i could see this:

cg/sg
sg/sf
hunter
pf/c
 
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