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2004 Freshman

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by BrutusBobcat, Jul 12, 2004.

  1. FCollinsBuckeye

    FCollinsBuckeye Senior Former Game Champion

    Nice! I'm tellin' ya, we're gonna air it out this year! Woohoo!!
  2. ysubuck

    ysubuck Be water my friend.

    I think Person will be starting by the time OSU goes to Raleigh.

    Ginn will be in the mix on offense and special teams. I don't think that he'll get the starting spot at corner until next season. We might see a transfer because he's a lockdown corner that nobody on the roster can beat out once he picks up the system. Then again, he may play on exclusively on offense. Who knows, but he can do it all.

    Freeman will see time at OLB.

    Pittman and Haw will both see time at RB, and one of them may start if Ross can't get it going.
  3. kippy1040

    kippy1040 Junior

    I really like this thread and all the post were great readings to me. All of you guys i am sure have seen these talented freshman when they played for thier high school teams. People all over Ohio were calling me on the phone here in Florida and telling me what a great back that MoC was and well I just had to wait and see once he played for Ohio State. He was rare and showed such great talent for just being a freshman.

    But the point i am trying to make is this: when these freshman hit campus and settle in, what do they really think of them selves when they run up against others who have just as much talent as anybody else. It becomes a different game and one has to wonder if any self doubts will begin to settle in thier thinking. And this is one area where Coach Tressel is very strong in getting a youngster to really beleive in himself and teaching about the "Contribution" that this player can make for the "Group" or team.

    We all know how our heads can become swelled with overconfidence and cockiness, only to have it popped real quick and then we are really de-flated in a hurry. I know because i was there once and when it happend i had to learn all over again and get on with my life. And at the age of 63 i guess i am still trying to Learn.
  4. The KSB

    The KSB 4-4-11/11-5-11

    Your glass is half full. :)
  5. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    too late :wink:
  6. CleveBucks

    CleveBucks Serenity now Staff Member

    According to BSB, Teddy G. and Holmes were the two primary punt returners. They're really putting a lot of confidence in Teddy.
  7. DiHard

    DiHard Guest

    realistic solid contributions from true freshmen.....the list is slim....

    3-and maybe ...mitchum

    also...josh huston could be very...very good this year....

    remember....nobody believed in groom...nobody believed in bj....but coach t. can make me into an all big-10 punter...

    just remember directional punting when you think of the buckeyes this year....
  8. BuckNutty

    BuckNutty Hear The Drummer Get Wicked Staff Member Bookie

    I think you're leaving some guys out, Di. Ben Person looked better than Mitchum in the Big 33 game. I think he contributes up front before Kyle does. After watching Devon Lyons I think there is a chance he could contribute this year and reports are that he and Dukes have looked really good in practice. Rory Nicol will play this year and reports are he has looked good as well. Marcus Freeman could contribute some, especially on special teams and at the Sam if anything were to happen to Carpenter. I still think Haw plays in the fall. There are going to be a number of quality athletes that we can afford to redshirt this year though, and that's a good thing.
  9. DiHard

    DiHard Guest

    nutty....i think we are talking two sides here...

    im talking not playing time....but playing themselves into a real players role.......

    how many true freshmen have had any "real" impact on the season over the past decade???

    i think the rose glasses should be taken off for this.....

    ginn can play...pittman can play....thats it...
  10. BuckNutty

    BuckNutty Hear The Drummer Get Wicked Staff Member Bookie

    OK, if we're talking "significant" contributions, which has to be tempered a bit for a freshman, I'll say Person, Lyons and Nicol could join Pittman and Ginn. We aren't exactly stacked at TE. Hamby is a known commodity. Frost is unproven and already dinged up a little although everything points to him being great. Nicol is getting rave reviews. From a numbers standpoint there is most definitely an opportunity. We ain't exactly loaded up front and Person is the most ready to contribute of all the freshmen, IMO. He may never see the field or he may have to play early if say Datish were to struggle some. Hopefully he won't have to play a whole lot but it worked out ok for Sims and Mangold. Devon Lyons is a beast. JT has already said if they were to play a game tomorrow Lyons and Dukes would play. We've got a pretty unexperienced group at wideout after Santonio and Bam and it's anyone's guess who will step up opposite Santonio. You would think that would be Roy Hall but the jury is still out. If Haw had enrolled early I would add him to the group but Pittman clearly has that early edge. Haw can block, he's quick, has great hands out of the backfield and has a gear I'm not sure any other back on the team currently has.

    We can agree to disagree. I'm not preparing a farewell speech or anything just yet :p
  11. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    Nutty, what does your probable RS list look like?
  12. BuckNutty

    BuckNutty Hear The Drummer Get Wicked Staff Member Bookie

    OK, here goes...


    Sirjo Welch
    Nick Patterson
    Jon Skinner
    Steve Rehring
    Vernon Gholston
    Chad Hoobler(all about depth, nothing to do with talent)
    Shaun Lane
    Curtis Terry
    Brandon Smith
    Kyle Mitchum
    Alex Barrow
    AJ Trapasso
    Dionte Johnson

    Freeman, Haw, Pittman, Ginn, Nicol, Dukes, Lyons, and Person play.

    Abdallah is a toss up although I'm leaning towards redshirt. I would have added Brandon Underwood to the redshirt list but after reading JT's comments today I'm not so sure.
  13. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    I was along the same lines minus Mitchum and maybe AJ if the punting isn't up to par in the first few games.
  14. Sloopy45

    Sloopy45 Pimp Minister Sinister

    I really can't see any of the LBs, WRs, or most of the DBs cracking the rotation, unless they're needed on Special Teams.

    Tressel has showed that he will play true freshman on the OL (Sims & Mangold in '02), so I'd look for Person, Mitchum, Rehring, and Skinner to get serious looks for some playing time.

    Also, the staff has liked to rotate a lot of guys on the DL for the last couple years, so Abdallah, and Barrow have a chance to play, IMO.

    As for Ginn, I don't care if he sees a snap at DB this year or not. As long as he can add explosiveness to the KR game and take an occasional trip to the House, that's good enough for me. OSU has been awful in this regard the last few years. We need a threat desperately.
  15. flybuckeye

    flybuckeye Sophmore

    Isn't Freeman already in the LB rotation behind Carpenter.

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