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2005 - Can You See It?

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by Carmen Ohio, Jan 5, 2005.

  1. Carmen Ohio

    Carmen Ohio Freshman

    Now that the season is over and all the bowl games have been played we can look at where we are and where we stand with the rest of the teams in the country. USC's "domination" of Oklahoma was actually a great sign for Ohio State because of all the things we have come to be and all the things that point to where this team is going that mirror where USC is. If the commentators and sports pundits really looked at how teams played at the end of the year instead of basing everything on overall records and winning a so-called superior conference they would know that the one of the few teams that could give USC a run for their money at the end of the 2004 season is Ohio State. They (USC) shut down Peterson ( a freshman who is great if he can get north-to-south a couple of yards past the line of scrimmage). We shut down Hart (a freshman who is great if he can get north-to south a couple of yards past the line of scrimmage then a Morency who is I would think by good counsel entering the NFL draft). They handled a better-than-average Clayton... we handled a great Edwards. They didn't have to contend with a Breaston... and Bush, while explosive and a diffrence-maker is as a game breaker no better than if not a step behind Ted Ginn who plays in his own world. To me spreading the offense out a little to accomodate his talent and the ability for the quarterback to find a running lane totally changed our offense and befuddled defensive coordinators down the stretch. Look at how we handled Michigan who #5 Texas struggled with until the end and how Oklahoma owns the Longhorns but struggled with OK State who we crushed to show how random the polls really are.

    My comments are in no way meant to take anything from USC. They are meant to show we are not that far from if not all ready at the current standard they have set for college football. We also take the best rusher out of the game and through pressure put the onus on the quarterback to make the reads and the throws under duress. But going into 2005 I think we have the best linebacking corps in the country... an active, strong and penetrating front four even without Fraser, a lockdown corner with Ashton and the among the games biggest headhunters in Donte and Nate. On the offensive side of the ball I think our base receivers are just as feared with the addition of Ginn who I define as more of an athelete than a pure receiver. Our offensive line finally learned our system, found a groove and is now becoming deep (even if you don't consider Boone and the other incoming freshmen).

    But there are two glaring differences between USC and Ohio State... one that is obvious but debatable, another that has to be left open to interpretation. First the running game. Obviously at this point their backs are statistically and perhaps even physically better than ours. Thats not to say that Antonio and Eric won't emerge, but to not concede that at this date and time is just being blind. On the other hand with Troy Smith we have a unique commodity that not only confounds opponents, it pushes Justin into being more of a total quarterback and balances out the rushing issues. How many times did Jason White have a chance to just run for it when he chose to throw risky passes. The debatable issue I think deals with coaching and the approach to game day and the game plan. I can't think of a more "one of the guys" coach who isn't under investigation than Pete Carroll, nor a more "heralded" offensive coordinator than Norm Chow without a head coaching offer. But I also can't think of a more all for the school ... all for the student athelete and change what we have to change on the field for the win staff than coach T and company (watch the Michigan 2001 game and 2004 game).

    The bottom line... going into 2005 we stand with the best and in my opinion are ready to start our own dynasty. It will begin with a victory over Texas in The Shoe that'll get us noticed and up in the polls and end with a classic Rose Bowl match-up that unfortunately will be a BCS godsend. The ESPN guys said it under their breath in the NC postgame ("next year obviously Ohio State should be very good"), but I'm saying it out loud - we will challenge for the national championship next year and for beating Michigan and closing strong despite all the irrelevant BS... thanks for a great year and the hopes for 2005!
  2. exhawg

    exhawg Mirror Guy Staff Member

    I was thinking of posting something like this, but didn't want to spent that much time on it. After watching many of the bowl games I only see SC and Auburn that I think are playing better than tOSU right now. Iowa, Texas, and Georgia would be pretty tough games as well.
    In the past 2 games our defense has shut down the best WR corp and one of the best running games in CFB. Our offense has looked better than at any point of the season with 2 different QB's leading the way. IMO if JT had been able to start preparing after The Game we would have given SC a much better game than Choklahoma did last night. I end up saying this every year, but I'm really looking forward to next season.
  3. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    Deja Vu?

    Right now USC has won 22 straight...add in 12-0 going into the NC game next year. Remind you of a previous situation?
  4. RugbyBuck

    RugbyBuck Our church has no bells.

    Carmen, did you actually watch the game? USC would've smoked us at least as badly as they did Oklahoma. Next year may be a different story, but this year we are nowhere near USC's class.
  5. Brutus1

    Brutus1 Don't be penurious, donate to the BP Spring Dr.

    We wouldn't have given them the gift of 5 turnovers.
  6. AKAK

    AKAK If you hear the siren its already too late Staff Member Tech Admin

    Yep-- Got snubbed by the BCS one year... undefeated NC's the next by rolling yet another overrated Big XII team...

    I'd really like a shot at these guys.
  7. RugbyBuck

    RugbyBuck Our church has no bells.

    Had we played them last night, with this year's team, we would've given them two or maybe three.

    I'm not down on us. I thought we finished very well in an extremely challenging year. I'm confident that we will be back in the hunt next year and hope that we run the table. However, to say that we would've given USC a game last night is more than scarlet-colored glasses and reminds me of all the unrealistic early season hype this year (much of it from me, I admit). Fact: we were not nearly as good as USC this year. Fact: we have a shot at being just as good next year.
  8. daddyphatsacs

    daddyphatsacs Let the cards fall... Staff Member

    I'm not trying to be a homer here, but I feel that we would have given USC a better game than Oklahoma did. Hell if you play that game 10 times Oklahoma would have given USC a much better game 9 of 10 times.

    As for your initial analysis I pretty much agree with it. I feel that if we can finally erode that cloud of controversy that has fogged our program since the beginning of 2003 it will pave the way for a run at a dynasty. I see us aligned for a crack at the title the next 2 years, possibly 3. I think that the emergence of stud receivers along with a more open approach to offense will carry over to next year. If the line continues to improve, and the defense plays like they did the last 2 games of the season, I like our chances of reaching Pasadena next year.

    You can usually learn a lot about a young team that gets hot late in the season, they are normally the most dangerous teams to start the next seasons.
  9. AKAK

    AKAK If you hear the siren its already too late Staff Member Tech Admin

    Except that they couldn't fucking cover anyone all night... It wasn't just the turnovers... their defense got exposed... badly.
  10. UGABuck

    UGABuck Newbie

    Doesn't OU start a freshman DB?
  11. Dryden

    Dryden Sober as Sarkisian Staff Member Tech Admin

    Honestly, I don't think anyone could have beaten USC this year. Yeah, USC had their close tough games (Cal), mail it in 1st half efforts (Stanford) and close scores that weren't indicitive of how thoroughly they dominated their opponent (UCLA), but the fact is USC won all those games, and every OSU fan should know that that is all that matters. If USC played Oklahoma ten times, USC would win the game every single time. Even without the five turnovers OU would've lost, the score just wouldn't have been as lopsided. USC's lines were better, their backs and receivers were better, and their secondary was better.

    The only thing I will regret from this season is not seeing Auburn's secondary against USC. While Auburn didn't dominate Va Tech the way USC did against OU, I came away from the Sugar Bowl awe-struck by how fast and how physical Auburn's secondary was. Damn can those guys hit! I think Auburn would've at least gotten turnovers back, and I don't know that USC's receivers would have been open (or eager to go) across the middle.

    OU's secondary was pathetic. Now we see how Texas Tech rolled up 425 yards of offense against that D and only managed 13 points ... 4 turnovers.

    Frankly, after seeing how awful OU's secondary was, and given the fact that they shut out Texas and Black Jesus only threw for about 85 yards against that secondary, I like our chances against Texas next year a helluva lot more.
  12. UGABuck

    UGABuck Newbie

  13. brutus2002

    brutus2002 Junior

    The runningback position is the biggest upgrade that we require for a NC run. IMO there are 10-15 teams that would have played USC alot better than okie. Hell we would have put over 40 on them with the 5 turnovers. 4 of the turnovers were on USC'S side of the field. Okie is overrated and alot of people knew it.

    OSU,USC,AUB, Iowa, and Tennessee had the most impressive bowl victories IMO.
  14. biobuck

    biobuck Newbie

    Iowa with a hail mary pass doesn't qualify as an 'impressive' victory for me..
  15. brutus2002

    brutus2002 Junior

    I was impressed with Iowas defense!!! Too bad they lose the whole defensive line, considine, and one linebacker.

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