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2007 TSUN News

Discussion in 'College Football' started by osugrad21, Dec 15, 2006.

  1. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    How long are you going to make dipshit comparisons? Tressel is 208-73-2 (73.7%) all-time including 73-16-0 (82.0%) at Ohio State...not even close to 62.5%. Oh yeah, Tressel also has five national titles and nine national title game appearances. How many of either does DickRod have?
     
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  2. CleveBucks

    CleveBucks Serenity now Staff Member

    .645 after you take out his weak first year. Much of a difference?
     
  3. Oh8ch

    Oh8ch Cognoscente of Omphaloskepsis Staff Member

    I have to admit I too am sad to see all the hatred for RR posted in this thread.

    After all - he has his own thread! Let's post some hate over there as well.
     
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  4. HailToMichigan

    HailToMichigan Maize and Blue Wahoo

    Apples to oranges. Next time read the whole discussion. Tressel was not 208-73-2 when he showed up at Ohio State. He was roughly .700. Which was at D-IAA. The competition in the Big Ten is so much harder!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  5. Muck

    Muck Enjoy Every Sandwich Staff Member

    Yep


    The last coach Ohio State had that went 9-4 all the time was Earle Bruce.

    He was fired for it.
     
  6. HailToMichigan

    HailToMichigan Maize and Blue Wahoo

    Yes, exactly.

    But Tressel's record at Youngstown State was 135-57-2, or .701. Applying the fallacious logic that RR's previous coaching win percentage (.625) will be the same at Michigan, Tressel should be giving you 9-4 seasons. He's not, even though the competition is so much better.
     
  7. NFBuck

    NFBuck Total Coverage.

    And he won four national titles and played for two others where I'd argue a National Title is even more difficult with the playoff format. DickRod has a couple Big East titles after the big boys left the conference. Even with that, like I previously stated, he struggled against teams with decent defenses. Big difference.
     
  8. sandgk

    sandgk Watson, Crick & A Twist

    Nobody is suggesting that is the case - but, it is evident that you don't need lots of resources to beat an RR offense - South Florida had a dearth of resources and they did just fine, two years in a row.
    I know you intended that as your best attempt at deflecting Mili's point, but it fails.

    RR lost in the Big East, badly when it was better stocked with teams, emphatically at season's end, or season's beginning against inferior opposition when all that stood in his way was Pitt or South Florida.

    The problem for RR is that the road doesn't only come through Ohio State in the Big Ten. The competition will be tougher (Wisky, MSU, Penn State, Purdue, Illinois) and that is why we here are so certain he will lose more than his share.

    You keep citing 9-4, maybe there's a reason why those figures are on your mind? A best case basis perhaps?
     
  9. HailToMichigan

    HailToMichigan Maize and Blue Wahoo

    I keep citing 9-4 in relation to Tressel. It's a voodoo thing.
     
  10. sandgk

    sandgk Watson, Crick & A Twist

    Meh - if 9-4 is TSUN's record next year I'll be very surprised, Your season has 8-5, at best, written all over it. Downhill from there.

    Speaking of voodoo, has West Virginia sold out of their Rodriguez Voodoo dolls?

    Bad juju man, bad medicine.
     
  11. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    not a good comparison at all. all this "success" you're heaping on him is directly correlated to every good team leaving his schedule. I doubt Tressel was winning Championships because the better teams he was supposed to play up and left.
     
  12. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    I'll take .701 (YSU record) over .548 (DickRod's record prior to WVU) any day. As for the competition being harder in the Big Ten, at YSU Tressel competed against the same leve of opponents, i.e., fellow I-AA schools (and had a winning record against I-A schools, something like 18-14 IIRC). He won those four national titles and two runners-up at YSU on the field in playoffs, not through polls...he earned them.

    Bottom line is that he was far worse than Tressel at the lower level (Salem and Glenville State, 45-36-2, .548) and also at the upper level (WVU, 60 26, .698).
     
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  13. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    OK.

    Take away his worst year (2-8 at Salem), then take away his best year (11-1) and his career record is 91-53-2. Thats a .630 win %.


    JT's career win % is 74% thats 10-3 on average
    His 82% mark while at OSU would average out to 11-2

    and yes we would hold him in high regard based soley on what he's done in big games against his rival. How's RR's track record on that front?


    No, its saying that while you do indeed step up the resources you have availible at scUM, you step up to a higher degree of difficulty with the schedule. Its a wash.
     
  14. MaxBuck

    MaxBuck 2014 National Champions!

    Figured that one out pretty quick, didn't you?
     
  15. brutus2002

    brutus2002 Junior

    RB David Oku has eliminated Michigan...There are a couple of defenders from Florida that have moved Auburn to the top of their list.
     

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