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2009 SEC discussion

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jwinslow;1508931; said:
I'll wait for Grad's take from South Carolina, but from afar, the above quote isn't remotely believable. Did the high school not have telephones? Was the kid's football team & staff disbanded and forbidden to speak? Were all roads into the town closed for construction? One cell phone stops participating and all lines of communication are eliminated? Come on man, that's a very weak excuse to try and save face.And has plenty of experience in SC HS coaching & SEC college recruiting circles...
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what are u talking about..u mention issues like the high school with no phone and some sort of football team silent treatment...

dont u think it is just normal to be able actually call a prospect on his own phone to talk with him..i mean the university is gonna pay his whole education? why should a coach have to call a school in order to converse with a kid who should be ecstatic about having the opportunity to prove himself?
 
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spurrier;1508929; said:
sure...lets tackle the petitions first...when spurrier got here he said that he believed that a scholarship was year to year and not for 4 yrs..he wasnt about a kid getting a scholly and then chasing tail and being lazy for 4 yrs. He set a standard and there were 3 guys who didnt go to summer workouts. it was spurriers first year and he cut em loose..The coaches got together and formed a petition to protect their players WHO were not doing [censored] anyway...Spurrier made his point and as time has gon on that has absolutely died down in this state..The coaches backed down after a time and realized that Spurrier didnt do a thing wrong. i guess it didnt hurt too much since we got gilmore, jeffrey, jeffrey, holloman and payne from the state..
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False. One of those players (the boy from Irmo I believe) was cited for not carrying out his expectations...another, Trent Usher, was simply told he was not USC caliber although he was a legacy and his Dad was a longstanding HC in SC. You can paint with broad strokes as much as you like, but Spurrier has definitely not formed a close bond or even a foothold with the in-state coaches as your initial post announced.

spurrier;1508929; said:
now onto the next.ron cooper promised a kid in ga a scholly. the kid in question already had an offer from uga that was pulled because of his behavior in hs. Spurrier did not give ron cooper permission to offer the kid. When all this came out The usc staff was going to honor coopers promise anyway but could not get in touch with this kid. he wouldnt answer his phone or return messages..Spurrier made a decision at that time not to grant him a scholly. The coach defended his kid and raised cain..Went to the papers and all...Spurrier didnt budge. Spurrier had already had a situation with another kid who signed with Auburn while still wearing a gamecock hat...he wasnt about letting an 18 yr old mess with his day...the kid had plenty of culpability in his situation with us....Ron Cooper was then told to find another job and he went to Lsu...Didnt seem to hurt because we are racking up in Ga.
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You must play leftfield...I sure didn't bring up Coop. He has had enough shit since ol SOS called him out in that postgame...dontcha think?

spurrier;1508929; said:
David Reaves has joined the Ut staff because he is the brother in law of Lane kiffin..the day after he was hired at tennessee he drove down to florida and tried to recruit Jarvis Giles, a kid that already committed to usc..actually he committed to david reaves..reaves thought he could go down in his UT gear and get Giles to turn. Giles told him to go screw himself and is now a freshman at usc..So David Reaves doesnt scare me at all..
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Why would David Reaves scare you? He is an awful recruiter...he was awful in Columbia and now at Tennessee. You see, that was my entire point that you decied to ignore in your haste to throw out a 'clueless' remark. USC is doing an awful job in-state. There is zero comparison between Clemson and USC's recruiting techniques...none, zilch, zero. If I thought you had the slightest clue in this conversation, I would drop specific examples that are occurring right now...but since I realize what I'm dealing with here, I'll simply tell you that USC's efforts have been subpar at best.

spurrier;1508929; said:
oh yeah, dont refer to me as chief or slick..i dont mess with u and u dont mess with me
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Really, you can mess with me as much as you want....especially when you come across as such a clueless dumbass. I spoke to Coach Spurrier earlier this week, traded emails with Coach Beamer, and regretfully missed my invitation to Gamecock Showcase...you?
 
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osugrad21;1508938; said:
False. One of those players (the boy from Irmo I believe) was cited for not carrying out his expectations...another, Trent Usher, was simply told he was not USC caliber although he was a legacy and his Dad was a longstanding HC in SC. You can paint with broad strokes as much as you like, but Spurrier has definitely not formed a close bond or even a foothold with the in-state coaches as your initial post announced.




You must play leftfield...I sure didn't bring up Coop. He has had enough [censored] since ol SOS called him out in that postgame...dontcha think?



Why would David Reaves scare you? He is an awful recruiter...he was awful in Columbia and now at Tennessee. You see, that was my entire point that you decied to ignore in your haste to throw out a 'clueless' remark. USC is doing an awful job in-state. There is zero comparison between Clemson and USC's recruiting techniques...none, zilch, zero. If I thought you had the slightest clue in this conversation, I would drop specific examples that are occurring right now...but since I realize what I'm dealing with here, I'll simply tell you that USC's efforts have been subpar at best.



Really, you can mess with me as much as you want....especially when you come across as such a clueless dumbass. I spoke to Coach Spurrier earlier this week, traded emails with Coach Beamer, and regretfully missed my invitation to Gamecock Showcase...you?
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ok, let me go slow for you..i originally stated that spurrier is JUST NOW starting to get a foothold in the state..i never made any assertion at all that spurrier has done well in state annually..

I did say things are turning around..gilmore, holloman, jeffrey, jeffrey, swearinger, payne are all instate players that steve never would have gotten at one time..

we have some very solid instate guys already committed for 2010. Getting rid of Hunt and replacing him with Wolford has done wonders..Getting beamer and Graham have also done wonders...these are the reasons why i originally stated that spurrier isnt going anywhere..i do know that we are right there with lattimore at this point and lead for him...too not see that our staff has made incredible strides in the last 12 months is just flat being blind..i only follow usc recruiting closely and see inroads being made. clemson, is better right now, that is too bad for us..but we are actually doing better...the proof is in the signees and commitments.

josh winchell was another player that didnt do any summer workouts...he was one of those guys that got released by spurrier..he took a hit for it and that is that..and on ron cooper..i was just covering bases..and about reaves, the op said something about reaves leaving with a rolodex full of instate contacts..i used the giles situation to quell the theory that he was anything to worry about..

sorry u didnt make it to the showcase..it was a great time. the kids are seeing major improvements at usc and the facilities are now getting into the upper half of the sec...we are showing a commitment and its paying off..getting a guy down like shariff boyd was a testament to that..
 
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This HAS to be someone here with a false account and IP. The odds of someone being simultaneously this stupid and incredibly accidentally hilarious have to be about the same as the Shakespearean Monkey business.

No way. Just none.

I am just dying here.
 
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spurrier;1508904; said:
lol i have been following this stuff for 20 yrs.

spurrier has had 5 classes...the first class he had 45 days to recruit so i throw that out...now u are down to 4 classes..he has an average of a 12 ranked class in those 4 yrs and my point was that this past class was the first year where he had a great year in state..it takes time in order not to lose the aj greens and carlos dunlaps when uga and florida are coming in this state also to recruit..now we have david reaves at tennessee recruiting back here...its a fight in this part of the world....Spurrier is now getting those guys and looks like he will get the number 1 hs player in the nation in this next class. a guy he wouldnt have gotten 2 yrs ago..alshon jeffrey, demario jeffrey, lamar scruggs, chris payne, devonte holloman, stephon gilmore. jarvis giles, ronald byrd alone were offered by uf, southern cal, oklahoma georgia and tennessee combined.

btw, in the sec, if u are 12th nationally u arent crap because u are 7 in conference..IF osu had a 12 ranked class they would be 2nd in conference...that is like apples to oranges..

and we do have good players here at south carolina...if not, we wouldnt have had 6, yes 6, players drafted in this past draft alone. i bet not even osu had 6 drafted. things are moving along but we are in a beast of a conference and its just the way it is.

the bottom line is that our qb has been a total screwup and is just now figuring out how to act and we arent quite deep enough to lose players like ko simpson and sidney rice leave after their sophomore years. and again we just lost 3 more underclassman to the draft. again, its not fair to just look at a coach and judge without knowing crap about the program...i would never question your team so think a bit before u spout about this one.
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1. Why is typing "you" so difficult? You typed "question"
2. " bet not even osu had 6 drafted" that blows your credibility right there.
3. STFU
 
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