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2012 Preseason and regular polls (official thread)

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1. Alabama
2. LSU
3. Auburn
4. Florida
5. South Carolina
6. Arkansas
7. Georgia
8. Tennessee
9. Mississippi
10. Mississippi State
11. Kentucky
12. Vanderbilt
13. Notre Dame
14. Oklahoma
15. Texas
16. Oregon
17. USC
18. Alabama
19. Notre Dame
20. Bama
21. Notre Dame
22. LSU
23. Notre Dame
24. Bama
25. Ohio State
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;2075733; said:
1. Alabama
2. LSU
3. Auburn
4. Florida
5. South Carolina
6. Arkansas
7. Georgia
8. Tennessee
9. Mississippi
10. Mississippi State
11. Kentucky
12. Vanderbilt
13. Notre Dame
14. Oklahoma
15. Texas
16. Oregon
17. USC
18. Alabama
19. Notre Dame
20. Bama
21. Notre Dame
22. LSU
23. Notre Dame
24. Bama
25. Ohio State
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You forgot aTm.
 
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You guys are right. That was careless of me

1. Alabama
2. LSU
3. Auburn
4. Florida
5. South Carolina
6. Arkansas
7. Georgia
8. Texas A&M
9. Tennessee
10. Missouri
11. Mississippi
12. Mississippi State
13. Kentucky
14. Vanderbilt
15. Notre Dame
16. Oklahoma
17. Texas
18. Oregon
19. USC
20. Boise State
21. Alabama
20. SEC
21. Notre Dame
22. LSU
23. Notre Dame
24. Bama
25. Ohio State
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;2076033; said:
You guys are right. That was careless of me

1. Alabama
2. LSU
3. Auburn
4. Florida
5. South Carolina
6. Arkansas
7. Georgia
8. Texas A&M
9. Tennessee
10. Missouri
11. Mississippi
12. Mississippi State
13. Kentucky
14. Vanderbilt
15. Notre Dame
16. Oklahoma
17. Texas
18. Oregon
19. USC
20. Boise State
21. Alabama
20. SEC
21. Notre Dame
22. LSU
23. Notre Dame
24. Bama
25. Ohio State
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I was hoping for an all SEC championship for 2012. Game of the century every year!
 
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Trying to be objective with what I witnessed this week and today... seemed to me that compared to Florida, South Carolina, Houston, Oregon, aTm, even Western Michigan -- the Big 10 QBs did not match up with those of their opponents -- possible exception being Wisconsin.

I know some of you are going to go ballistic over this, but Florida and Oregon were clearly much faster at damn near each position and wether it was a fault of coaching, or the importance of speed - the size and power of Big 10 teams didn't seem to be able to assert itself in critical moments of the game.

Only Michigan State seemed to have the speed and power to match up with their opponent.
 
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cincibuck;2078064; said:
Trying to be objective with what I witnessed this week and today... seemed to me that compared to Florida, South Carolina, Houston, Oregon, aTm, even Western Michigan -- the Big 10 QBs did not match up with those of their opponents -- possible exception being Wisconsin.

I know some of you are going to go ballistic over this, but Florida and Oregon were clearly much faster at damn near each position and wether it was a fault of coaching, or the importance of speed - the size and power of Big 10 teams didn't seem to be able to assert itself in critical moments of the game.

Only Michigan State seemed to have the speed and power to match up with their opponent.
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As much as I hate the ad nauseam of the speed argument, you make a good point.
 
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Buckeye513;2078460; said:
Running back =/= "damn near each position"
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Try wide outs, running backs, linebackers, d-backs and defensive ends.

I'll concede that the Bucks had the faster QB.

Either Florida's speed or Bollman's stupidity in insisting on going wide set a tone for much of the afternoon. Even Posy couldn't get the edge.

Six sacks? Indicates to me that receivers couldn't get open and that's almost always speed against speed. Could also be linemen getting beat on the snap. Inability to stop Florida from going wide? Line? Line backers? DBs or the speed of Florida's backs? Kick blocked? If not for speed, how did the blocker get there?

No doubt that this Buckeye team would have looked and played much differently if not for the loss of leadership, continuity and talent. That being said, the talent/speed drop off from the last two teams was evident. Here's hoping that Urban is addressing the issue as I write.
 
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I know some of you are going to go ballistic over this, but Florida and Oregon were clearly much faster at damn near each position and wether it was a fault of coaching, or the importance of speed - the size and power of Big 10 teams didn't seem to be able to assert itself in critical moments of the game.
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How does one argue with someone lumping an incredibly diverse group of players, skillsets, strengths & weaknesses into a cute, frosted tip approved catch phrase like too much speed? I'll try, but I'm not convinced it's going to be productive.

Wisconsin wasn't slow on defense. They stink on defense. They overpursue, blow coverages, miss reads, miss tackles. This isn't a speed thing. For crying outloud, you watched a dreadful OSU team put up 33 on them a week after Sparty humiliated them with 37 pts. We knew that a long time ago, but because they have offense, people ignore it.


Ross Homan isn't any faster than those LBs, but he wouldn't be flying out of position all game, which is why Oregon had tons of trouble against OSU in their Rose matchup.
 
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jwinslow said:
How does one argue with someone lumping an incredibly diverse group of players, skillsets, strengths & weaknesses into a cute, frosted tip approved catch phrase like too much speed? I'll try, but I'm not convinced it's going to be productive.

Wisconsin wasn't slow on defense. They stink on defense. They overpursue, blow coverages, miss reads, miss tackles. This isn't a speed thing. For crying outloud, you watched a dreadful OSU team put up 33 on them a week after Sparty humiliated them with 37 pts. We knew that a long time ago, but because they have offense, people ignore it.


Ross Homan isn't any faster than those LBs, but he wouldn't be flying out of position all game, which is why Oregon had tons of trouble against OSU in their Rose matchup.
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But..

Speed covers a lot of those problems up and at the college level, speed is largely the name of the game.

NFL, everyone is fast and disciplined (mostly). College, there's going to be missed assignments, poor technique, etc. Less coaching time and overall depth of talent. Faster teams get away with those things. The better athletes win out when not everyone can be disciplined.

Andrew Sweat is good at diagnosing plays, but he couldn't get the sideline at all against Florida.

Also, I couldn't believe Wisconsin wasn't able to impose their will at the offensive line late in the game. Early on they got a push, late in the game, Oregon was just beating them up front. Ball had no room to run. Can't explain that one.
 
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