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2016 NFL Draft (April 28-April 30, 2016)

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I can provide a hundred links to articles to support the fact that the running back position is not drafted as high as it used to be in the past. Teams use their early picks on players that are going to have longer careers in the league than the running back averages. There are literally scores of articles about it all over the web the past few years.

But of course you two know much more than the GMs that are getting paid to build NFL rosters.

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But go ahead and argue away that the RB is a hot commodity in the NFL. Knock yourself out. We will ignore Free Agent contracts of RBs compared to other positions, running back by committee for many teams, or average salaries per position.
 
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Hstead said:
I can provide a hundred links to articles to support the fact that the running back position is not drafted as high as it used to be in the past. Teams use their early picks on players that are going to have longer careers in the league than the running back averages. There are literally scores of articles about it all over the web the past few years.
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was there something confusing about "we know"? Or are you just enjoying arguing with yourself, given that we don't disagree with that ?

Would you mind if I link the countless articles from this year talking about how little the NFL values the other tailbacks (due to the trend and positional value) but the overwhelming adoration of zeke ? Or are we skipping those because of your end goal?
But of course you two know much more than the GMs that are getting paid to build NFL rosters.
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which means your opinion is equally worthless, if we're trusting the coaches as a way to completely dismiss poster commentary.
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boy, I wonder why you skipped last year? It couldn't be the two backs taken, could it? Or the guy taken in the top 10 with a bad injury ?
But go ahead and argue away that the RB is a hot commodity in the NFL. Knock yourself out. We will ignore Free Agent contracts of RBs compared to other positions, running back by committee for many teams, or average salaries per position.
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You sure do adore arguing with yourself and strawmen. Not once did I argue that yet you race to set up armies of those strawmen and then dance triumphantly when they fall down as intended. Congrats.
 
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Hstead said:
I can provide a hundred links to articles to support the fact that the running back position is not drafted as high as it used to be in the past. Teams use their early picks on players that are going to have longer careers in the league than the running back averages. There are literally scores of articles about it all over the web the past few years.

But of course you two know much more than the GMs that are getting paid to build NFL rosters.

How many RBs went in the first round in 2014? 0
How many RBs went in the first round in 2013? 0

But go ahead and argue away that the RB is a hot commodity in the NFL. Knock yourself out. We will ignore Free Agent contracts of RBs compared to other positions, running back by committee for many teams, or average salaries per position.
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You're not wrong. But the elite guys still go high... or, rather, mid-1st round ish. and Eze is firmly in that elite tier. My guess w/o looking at teams would be closer to 15 ?
 
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You're not wrong. But the elite guys still go high... or, rather, mid-1st round ish. and Eze is firmly in that elite tier. My guess w/o looking at teams would be closer to 15 ?
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Yup, with a longshot of going a bit higher to the right team. The guys who slid in 2014 were two down bruisers without the upside and versatility of Zeke. Henry is like those two and projected accordingly. Zeke is much closer to Gurley, who most view as a shrewd pick looking back.
 
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kujirakira said:
You're not wrong. But the elite guys still go high... or, rather, mid-1st round ish. and Eze is firmly in that elite tier. My guess w/o looking at teams would be closer to 15 ?
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When the Worldwide Leader's guy mocks a draftee at #10, getting him in the 20s is indeed a steal. We're not talking about Bishop Sankey or Giovanni Bernard here, this is Ezekiel Elliott, a unique and probably elite RB prospect.
 
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The Browns thought the same about Richardson, but of course that is the Browns lol.

My point is I will not be surprised at all if Zeke goes in the bottom half of the 1st because lately it just hasn't paid much to be a RB in the draft when all of these teams are paying them less and picking up Free Agents for a dime a dozen.
 
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The Browns thought the same about Richardson, but of course that is the Browns lol.
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another very bad comparison to Zeke.
My point is I will not be surprised at all if Zeke goes in the bottom half of the 1st because lately it just hasn't paid much to be a RB in the draft when all of these teams are paying them less and picking up Free Agents for a dime a dozen.
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is it possible he goes in the high teens instead of 12-15? Obviously, though it's not a common prediction. Could he go very late in the first ? I suppose but that would be shocking. And great franchises will be laughing when they get him instead of the teams that need him.

Backs are very expendable and have limited shelf lives. But as Gurley showed, if you are an elite back you still have major value to the right team.
 
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http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...l-elliott-a-game-changer-and-other-ohio-state
Ezekiel Elliott is a game changer. He's got that potential. If you're going to look for one knock on him, he probably doesn't break as many tackles as you'd like to see, especially before he gets momentum going. But there's nothing else. When I study the tape, there's just nothing else that's wrong. He's the most competitive and best blocker I've ever evaluated as a run blocker at that position. He's a really good pass protector. He's as physical as you're going to get.
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TODD MCSHAY: MORE ELI APPLE LOVE, EZEKIEL ELLIOTT A 'GAME CHANGER' AND OTHER OHIO STATE REACTIONS FROM NFL COMBINE
Eric Seger on March 2, 2016 at 3:03p @ericseger33

McShay said he's heard some teams had Elliott pegged as high as a top 3 or 4 pick, but it probably won't happen because teams have greater needs at the top of this year's draft than running back.

"He catches the ball extremely well. He didn't have production that first year as a starter because he had a wrist injury, but he has great hands. This last year you could see it on tape, saw it at the combine to confirm it. Then as a runner you see top end speed, but also just how slippery he is getting in and out of creases quickly. He's an elite player. If it wasn't the running back position we'd lock him in. If he was an offensive tackle or defensive end or quarterback, certainly with this kind of grade it would be a no-brainer ... I had him going 10 to the Giants but I thought long and hard about Dallas, even more so about Baltimore at 6. I just will be surprised if he gets out of the top 15 and it won't surprise me at all if he's a top-10 pick like (Todd) Gurley was last year with the Rams at No. 10 overall.
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