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2016 tOSU Offense Discussion

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MililaniBuckeye said:
How many teams will have the "opportunity" to play the #6, #18, and #6 teams (CFP ranking at game time) in the final three games? They were #12 headed into the first of those three games (Baylor). So, OK, fine...a team ranked #20 and losing its 5th game of the year could make the playoffs. Still doesn't change the fact that starting higher in the polls is always better than starting lower...
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Well, us, for one. We were unanimous preseason #1 for the first time in history, and finished with top 10 MSU, top 10 scUM, and if we would've beaten Sparty, top 5 Iowa. Didn't matter. Timing of losses and quality of wins are what matter. I really think you're letting the BCS era cloud your vision back when it was extremely, if not impossible, to jump the top 2 teams if they won out. It's not like that anymore. Go back all the way to 2014 if you're concerned. We were 16th in the first cfp poll which was released midseason...and we still made it with them knowing we were down to our 3rd string QB. The committee has shown no sign of influence from the AP or coaches polls. I would agree that it's better to start higher in the initial cfp poll, though not imperative, but the preseason AP/Coaches are worth zilch. I'd rather have a motivated 15th ranked Buckeye team than a unanimous #1 that sleepwalks through the season until it's too late.
 
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OregonBuckeye said:
I'd rather have a motivated 15th ranked Buckeye team than a unanimous #1 that sleepwalks through the season until it's too late.
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Not sure if it was the team sleepwalking, but rather the offensive staff not knowing its ass from a hole in the ground. Once Meyer finally decided to quit fucking around and put Warriner up in the booth the offense was dominant like it was in 2014...
 
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OhioState001 said:
Ohio State: Per sources, former Maryland (and LSU, Bowling Green, etc…) offensive line coach Greg Studrawa is joining the Ohio State staff as offensive line coach. We also understand Ed Warinner will remain offensive coordinator. Offensive staff restructuring coming. Will update…

http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop

Beck gone? or a reduced role?
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Stud is a good dude and his wife is one of the nicest women I ever met.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
It boggles my mind how some people think it's better to start to season ranked as low as possible. As for the 8-12 ranking prediction, even though we lose a [Mark May] ton of talent, pollsters know we reload and we still have a [Mark May] ton (albeit less experienced) of talent.
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Has a preseason no 1 win a national title in the last 20 years? Lower ranking shows disrespect and drives players to fight harder. Much like how the country said Bama was done after ole miss and how we were done after va tech. I don't want to see these guys as no 1 until January.
 
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I am also talking lower is better preseason. I'm not talking i ranked I'm talking being closer to 20 is better than top 10. A loss to Oklahoma might drop us to unranked, but then slowly work up there beating a lot of quality teams and finishing with Msu and Ttun and ranked big ten title game. As long as we are above 20 mid season and only have 1 loss end of year I think we're good. A 1 loss big ten, ACC, sec and pac champ are basically guaranteed a spot.
 
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OregonBuckeye said:
That's not a fair argument. Teams ranked that low just tend to not be NC caliber; has nothing to do with them being unfairly left out of an NC. If the cfp committee ranked them from the preseason, I'd agree with you and Mili. However, they have most of the season to observe and let things start to sort themselves out.
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Yeap. I think we've also seen the last 2 years that it's AP/Coaches changing their polls to align with CFP rather than the opposite.
I'll give CFP credit for ranking on their own terms rather than being influenced by those polls.
Where AP and Coaches have us is utterly meaningless... only use seems to be bulletin board material. So I'll take rankings outside the top10... rankings putting us as the 3rd best team in Division. Rankings putting us behind an alleged top-5 scUM.
Bring it on.
 
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matcar said:
Being the hunter did change them. Attitude played a big role.
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"Being the hunter" had little to do with it. What pissed them off was the shitty play calling, which even Zeke publicly blasted. They would've been pissed going into scUM even if they had somehow managed to pull out the win against Sparty...

TampaBuckeyes said:
Has a preseason no 1 win a national title in the last 20 years? Lower ranking shows disrespect and drives players to fight harder. Much like how the country said Bama was done after ole miss and how we were done after va tech. I don't want to see these guys as no 1 until January.
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I think you give too much credit to the "rankings disrespect" factor. If there was any drop-off in motivation going into last season it wasn't because they were the first-ever unanimous pre-season #1, but rather they had already attained their goal of winning the national championship...even Meyer said "The Chase is complete." Let's say Oregon had won a close game in the NCG and the polls still ended up voting us #1 (and not Oregon because Mariota bailed for the draft). You think they would've still played with the same decreased level of motivation? No way. They would've been pissed throughout spring and fall camps, regardless of being #1, because they still had yet to reach their goal of a national title.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
"Being the hunter" had little to do with it. What pissed them off was the [Mark May]ty play calling, which even Zeke publicly blasted. They would've been pissed going into scUM even if they had somehow managed to pull out the win against Sparty...


I think you give too much credit to the "rankings disrespect" factor. If there was any drop-off in motivation going into last season it wasn't because they were the first-ever unanimous pre-season #1, but rather they had already attained their goal of winning the national championship...even Meyer said "The Chase is complete." Let's say Oregon had won a close game in the NCG and the polls still ended up voting us #1 (and not Oregon because Mariota bailed for the draft). You think they would've still played with the same decreased level of motivation? No way. They would've been pissed throughout spring and fall camps, regardless of being #1, because they still had yet to reach their goal of a national title.
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The playcalling didn't piss them off, otherwise they'd have been pissed most of the year. And really, that's my point, they didn't play pissed most of the year, and that was the problem.
 
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matcar said:
The playcalling didn't piss them off, otherwise they'd have been pissed most of the year. And really, that's my point, they didn't play pissed most of the year, and that was the problem.
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Fully agree! The team definitely was sleepwalking through most of the season and thought showing up would scare other teams! Our OOC schedule could've easily yielded 2 losses to NIU and WMU! That's inexcusable, whether you want to blame play calling or play execution. The team certainly lost their hunger this year and it showed on the field with close games that shouldn't be in the same stratosphere as the talent on this team(the previously mentioned OOC games, IU, Minny, heck even Hawaii needed the defense to bail us out, freaking HAWAII) and off the field (Cardale with his constant twitter ramblings, JT arrest, etc). This team got way too cocky after the NC and the unanimous #1 ranking, and it seemed like the team expected opposing teams to be scared of a Braxton spin and not show up. Little fire was shown by this team, and that had more to do with their ranking and loss of hunger, IMO than play calling. The attitude change after the MSU loss woke the team up majorly! They would've been motivated against scUM anyway, but knowing they blew their chance of repeating as champs finally lit a fire under them. Humbled teams who are ranked lower tend to play better as the season unfold, IMO
 
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Always fun to do but I will take a stab at our two/three deep for next year on offense:

QB: Barrett, Burrow
RB: Samuel, Dunn, Weber
WR1: Smith (if he gets the RS), Mack (yes, he is that good to play right away...also Victor if we land him), Campbell
WR2: Brown, Dixon, K.J. Hill
Slot/H: Wilson, Bruce (if we land him, he plays right away)
TE: Baugh, Berry (I easily could see Hausmann getting a ton of PT and getting in the two deep, best TE recruit we've had imo)
LT: Prince, Bowen
G: Price, Schmidt
C: Elflein, Burrell
G: Knox, Trout
RT: J. Jones, Lisle

Ton of talent on paper and it will be fun to see all the years of great recruiting under UFM out on the field. Barrett is going to have to be a playmaker in my eyes, as the WR unit is going to be VERY green and a number of guys will need to step up with no proven commodity...imo, a true freshman steps it up for us next year and my vote is Mack with his incredibly polished game and big play making ability...if we land Bruce or Victor, they play immediately imo. I am really excited to see if Hill and Dixon can step it up this year, as they were very exciting recruits.

RB I am not worried about in the slightest if the OL does their part. Speaking of the OL, I am really interested to see how that shakes out. We have recruited so, so well there in the last 2-3 years and they have had some time to develop their bodies and learn from some of the best OL we have had (and don't forget an incredible OL coach). Specifically, I think Prince and Knox are going to be super stars and future 1st round picks (not to put any pressure on them haha). Jamarco Jones has also shown a ton of promise. Finally, TE is a huge question mark. Baugh blocked very well and improved this year but hopefully they involve him in the passing attack, as we may need some help there. Jake Hausmann could be a name fans will get familiar with real quick...in my eyes, he is far and away the most dynamic and well rounded TE we have recruited. Also coming in at TE are Luke Farrell (Nick Vannett clone imo) and Kierre Hawkins, who are both highly ranked and I think Farrell might be game ready, especially as an extra blocker.

I think you will see some hiccups early on but you will also see a group oozing with talent. If they can mesh quickly, this is going to be a fun group to watch.
 
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This season is going to be awesome. Fully expect plenty of miscues and such early on, but also fully expect those kinks to be mostly ironed out by Wisky.

Win, lose, or draw, this year is going to be a wild fucking ride. Close games against a team or two we should probably murder and an old fashioned ass whooping of Oklahoma.

Some predictions...

1. The emergence of JT Barrett as one of, if not THE best QB in the country.

2. A mean, hungry ass team, hell bent on carving a swath the size of Hoke thru the B1G.

3. 2...2 1000 yd rushers, after both playoff games, of course.

4. 2 WR's that will blow our minds.

Undefeated National Champions. Again.

 
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BUCKYLE said:
This season is going to be awesome. Fully expect plenty of miscues and such early on, but also fully expect those kinks to be mostly ironed out by Wisky.

Win, lose, or draw, this year is going to be a wild fucking ride. Close games against a team or two we should probably murder and an old fashioned ass whooping of Oklahoma.

Some predictions...

1. The emergence of JT Barrett as one of, if not THE best QB in the country.

2. A mean, hungry ass team, hell bent on carving a swath the size of Hoke thru the B1G.

3. 2...2 1000 yd rushers, after both playoff games, of course.

4. 2 WR's that will blow our minds.

Undefeated National Champions. Again.
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