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2016 tOSU Really Basic Defense Discussion

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by ScriptOhio, Feb 22, 2016.

  1. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    BUCKEYES HAVE TOUGH TASK TO MAINTAIN PASS DEFENSE STANDARDS SET BY CHRIS ASH

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    For Urban Meyer’s first two seasons at Ohio State, the defense wasn’t quite up to the usual standards Buckeye fans like to see out of their Silver Bullets. Big plays in the passing game, particularly on third-and-long situations, seemed to plague the team during the two years that Everett Withers teamed up with Luke Fickell to handle the defensive coordinator duties.

    In Meyer’s first season, the Buckeyes ranked 78th in the country in passing defense, giving up 243.5 yards per game. As bad as that seems, it got even worse in 2013. Ohio State dropped all the way to 112th in pass defense in the second year of the Withers-Fickell partnership, allowing 268 yards per game through the air. Something needed to be done. Meyer promised to fix the defense and suddenly Withers found himself a head coaching job at James Madison.

    Then along came Chris Ash.

    After joining the Buckeye staff from Arkansas, Ash went to work, helping Fickell fix the communications between the different levels of the defense and installing a more aggressive mindset in his troops.

    Ohio State responded.

    IN 2014, THE BUCKEYES CLIMBED FROM 112TH, ALL THE WAY UP TO 29TH IN THE COUNTRY IN PASS DEFENSE, EN ROUTE TO A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.

    In 2014, the Buckeyes climbed from 112th, all the way up to 29th in the country in pass defense, en route to a national championship. Ohio State shaved their passing yards against down to 201.1 per game. Despite the fact that the team didn’t return to the College Football Playoff, the pass defense improved even more in 2015, finishing at No. 16 in the country, yielding only 184.5 yards per contest.

    Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2016/02/68034/buckeyes-have-tough-task-to-maintain-pass-defense-standards-set-by-chris-ash
     
  2. pnuts34

    pnuts34 Drunk off of wolverine tears

    I was reading on the article below about EGW being movied from CB to S now. Would his height make him a liability in coverage? I'm used to seeing taller players play S to cover the back end, haven't seen many 5'9'' S, unless they can really hit, and that doesn't seem to be EGW's game, as from the tape I've seen on him he's more of a ball hawking man on man DB.

    http://ohiostate.247sports.com/Article/Sweet-16-position-battles-Free-safety-44080930
     
  3. Tanner

    Tanner Senior

    I'm not familiar with Schiano's defense---I wonder if EGW would be playing sort of a slot corner/ safety hybrid?
     
  4. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    Won't matter... he will have to call to our style.
     
  5. NJ-Buckeye

    NJ-Buckeye They Hate Us cuz They Ain't Us.. Banners are good Staff Member

    By Gerd

    Eric Glover-Williams was with the ones at safety while in position reps. We didn't see any scrimmaging.

    Rashod Berry has moved to DE. Dre'Mont Jones and Jashon Cornell were both at DE.

    The ones at DT were Tracy Sprinkle and Mike Hill.

    The ones at CB were Gareon Conley and Marshon Lattimore.
     
  6. TheStoicPaisano

    TheStoicPaisano But I didn't, so it doesn't

    Lot of guys sat out today:
    -Tyquan Lewis, Josh Alabi, Malik Barrow
    -Nick Conner, Justin Hilliard
    -Damon Webb, Erick Smith, Cam Burrows

    Webb switched back to #7. Baker switched back to #4

    Cooper is #18
    Barrow is #55
    Borland is #32
     
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  7. RB07OSU

    RB07OSU #7 aka Vick the human joystick Staff Member BP Recruiting Team

    UFM mentioned that they tried both Cornell and Dre'Mont Jones inside today and said Cornell looked good. Also said they both will need to be ready to play, it will be interesting to see how that shakes out.
     
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  8. TheStoicPaisano

    TheStoicPaisano But I didn't, so it doesn't

    With Bosa they have 17 DL on scholarship, they better get some defensive snaps because linemen aren't going to pull their weight on special units.
     
  9. ShowMeBuck

    ShowMeBuck You know what? Chicken butt.

    I've got confidence in the end of year product and the '17 product because the talent is there. Until then, I hope the offense is lights out. We will see a few shoot out games IMO.
     
  10. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    Piecing Together Ohio State's Depth Chart on Defense

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    Later this month Urban Meyer is going to see seven former starters on defense drafted by various NFL teams, which leaves him in the unenviable position of having to replace some very, very talented players.

    The process has been ongoing for the last year or two, however, so it's not like the OSU coaching staff was caught off guard. Well, notcompletely off guard, anyway.

    As the coaches say repeatedly, there is still a long way to go until they have to play a game. They do, however, have a depth chart — even if they say they don't — and based on what has been seen we can maybe even piece it together.

    At least a little.

    Defensive End
    Sam Hubbard, rSo
    Jonathon Cooper, Fr OR
    Rashod Berry, rFr

    At Saturday's practice each of the defensive ends got time with the ones, so they will all rotate. Tyquan Lewis is taking it easy this spring due to injury, but he'll be starting at the other defensive end spot. Rashod Berry has seemingly made some nice strides since the start of spring practice when he was bringing up the rear after moving over from tight end.

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    Defensive Tackle

    Tracy Sprinkle, rJr
    Jashon Cornell, rFr OR
    Dre'Mont Jones, rFr

    Tracy Sprinkle has been the No. 1 defensive tackle every step of the way, but both Jashon Cornell and Dre'Mont Jones have been effective. Cornell was arguably the most impressive of the group on Saturday. Donovan Munger has been held out of the spring due to health concerns, but upon his return he will likely factor in somewhere as well. Freshman Malik Barrow is enrolled but taking things easy while he recovers from a torn ACL.

    Nose Tackle
    Mike Hill, rJr
    Davon Hamilton, rFr OR
    Robert Landers, rFr
    Dylan Thompson, rSo

    There is going to be some mixing and matching at the two defensive tackle spots while players rotate and try to find where they fit best. Mike Hill has been the "starter" from the outset. Urban Meyer said last week that Davon Hamilton is beginning to turn it on. Robert Landers was brutish on Saturday, but that was against some inexperienced third-teamers. Josh Alabi could also factor in here, but he's been out this spring.

    Defensive End
    Jalyn Holmes, Jr
    Darius Slade, rSo

    Jalyn Holmes has been holding this spot down while Tyquan Lewis is out, and he's become a better player because of it. Holmes will give the Buckeyes a legitimate third defensive end this season, just as they had last season in Sam Hubbard. Darius Slade has had a strong spring. Nick Bosa will figure in somewhere as well when he arrives in the summer. Like defensive tackle, don't get too hung up on who is where because they all rotate.

    Will Linebacker
    Dante Booker, Jr
    Tuf Borland, Fr

    Redshirt freshman Justin Hilliard will factor in here once he is fully recovered from injury. He has been working in some drills, but he has not been involved in contact. Tuf Borland has been getting some very valuable snaps as a true freshman.
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    Entire article: http://theozone.net/Ohio-State/Football/2016/News/Piecing-Together-Ohio-States-Depth-Chart-on-Defense
     
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  11. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    11W's projected defensive depth chart:

    PROJECTING OHIO STATE'S DEPTH CHART BASED ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN FROM SPRING PRACTICE

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    One of Urban Meyer’s goals by the end of every spring is to have some sort of depth chart nailed down. Heading out of spring ball, Ohio State’s head coach wants to have an idea of who will be running with the Buckeyes’ first team once fall camp rolls around in August.

    This spring is a little different, though, as Ohio State has a number of players being limited or held out due to injuries. That’s made it a bit more difficult for Meyer to finalize a depth chart coming out
    of spring.

    “This is uncharted waters for me,” Meyer said after the Buckeyes’ first practice of the spring. “You’d like to [establish a depth chart], but I don’t think so.

    “With 11 guys out, that’s the thing that kicks you in the teeth. If everybody’s ready to go, I think you could do that. But we’re not.”

    Meyer may not be able to do that; his job is to coach who is available to practice. He can’t predict the future.

    But Ohio State has opened part of three practices this spring to the media, so we can try and do some projections ourselves. There won’t be another open viewing portion until the Buckeyes play their annual spring game, so based on what we’ve seen, here’s what Ohio State’s depth chart could look like next fall.

    DEFENSE

    Defensive end: Sam Hubbard (rSo); Rashod Berry (rFr) OR Jonathon Cooper (Fr)

    Breakdown: Hubbard will the starter here while Berry and Cooper will also likely compete to get into the rotation. True freshman Nick Bosa will also be in the mix here — and potentially inside, as well — when he arrives in June.

    Defensive tackle: Tracy Sprinkle (rJr); Jashon Cornell (rFr) OR Dre'Mont Jones (rFr)

    Breakdown: Sprinkle has been with the first-team defense all spring at this spot, but don't be surprised if Cornell and Jones both play. Both have looked pretty solid in limited viewing time going against the second-team offense.
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    Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/spring-practice-2016/2016/04/69436/projecting-ohio-states-depth-chart-based-on-what-weve-seen-from-spring-practice
     
  12. RobotParty

    RobotParty Junior

    Yesterday, Larry Johnson said that Bosa will play both inside and outside. More revealingly, he said that Bosa is probably one of the best 11 and they are going to get the best 11 on the field. Because DT is less solidified than DE, chances are he'll be starting at DT opening day. It's starting to look like the following players will contribute next season:

    DE
    Hubbard
    Cooper
    Berry

    DT
    Bosa
    Sprinkle
    Cornell
    Jones

    NT
    Hill
    Hamilton
    Landers

    DE:
    Lewis
    Holmes

    WLB:
    Booker
    Hilliard

    MLB:
    McMillan
    Conner

    SLB:
    Worley
    Baker
    Jones

    BC:
    Conley
    Fuller
    Arnette

    FC:
    Lattimore
    Ward

    FS:
    Smith
    Webb
    Glover-Williams

    SS:
    Hooker
    Burrows
     
  13. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    Hubbard, Bosa, Hill, and Lewis will make one formidable line...
     
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  14. Taosman

    Taosman Aging Like Road Kill

    Bosa at 265 is probably too light for much time at tackle.
    He'll probably get lots of time spelling one of the ends. Probably Lewis.
    But that's a very nice lineup!
     
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  15. pnuts34

    pnuts34 Drunk off of wolverine tears

    I don't see Bosa starting for this reason, and because I see him rotating in at DE and DT. I can see Sprinkle starting over him. But if we can have a true DL rotation, then we may one of the more dangerous defenses in the nation
     

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