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Game Thread 2017 B1G Championship Game: OSU vs. Wisconsin - 12/2/17 @ 8:00 ET (FOX)

I think the defense is worse this year. Last year we had better linebackers, absolute studs in the secondary, but a slightly weaker D Line. Our defense was probably on the field 75% of the time against Clemson and kept them in check for quite a while.

The defense is worse without Tuf Borland. The defense is pretty dang good with him.
Baker balled TF out tonight with 16 tackles.
 
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Let me spell this out for you, really really clear:

1) Be Ohio State
2) Be extremely inconsistent but still end up winning the Big Ten
3) Get in the playoffs and get blown out for a second consecutive year, making 3 consecutive years for Big Ten teams to be embarrassed nationally
4) Be future Ohio State. Be a great team but drop 1 you shouldn't have (i.e. 2014). Due to prior experience, the committee elects to leave us out.

It has nothing to do with embarrassment and everything to do perception and how this affects the committee.

I would rather not go this year, a year in which we will almost certainly get embarassed, and instead go a year where we have a good team that is deserving.

Tl;dr If we get blown out yet again, there is a possibility we get left out in a year in which we were deserving.
It’s a committee in reality Who cares? A NC that is won by a 16 team playoff that starts next week is valuable. The NC the way it’s constructed is a glorified contrived made for TV exhibition with a title attached.
 
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I think the defense is worse this year. Last year we had better linebackers, absolute studs in the secondary, but a slightly weaker D Line. Our defense was probably on the field 75% of the time against Clemson and kept them in check for quite a while.
Defense is worse but Clemson's O doesn't feel nearly as dangerous this year. Might be a wash. The fact that we didn't give up 45 before halftime should be testament to how good that defense was.
 
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Some champions

Offensive line. Committed to protecting Barrett and then delivered against #1 ranked defense.
Defensive line. Shredded one or the top O line units all day.
Dobbins. Beast.
McLauren. Beast.
JT Barrett for courage, but he cost the Buckeyes at least 24 points with his arm.
Hurt my feelings. Beast.
Webb. Beast
Okudah. Beast
 
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What this year’s team does or doesn’t do in the playoffs has no bearing on the 2018 team’s perception to the committee. That perception is entirely on what the 2018 team does or doesn’t do. This whole idea of “the committee won’t like us anymore” is ridiculous.

As for recruits, there will continuously be recruits chomping at the bit to suit up for Ohio State. What a team does prior to them stepping on campus shouldn’t, and won’t, be a deterrent when playing for a coach like Urban Meyer. Their focus should be on how they can improve an already impressive team, and not so much what they lack.

Not sure I agree fully with either of those points, but let’s move on.
 
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Hey Nick you wouldn’t have to worry about a conversation re: a 30 point loss if you hadn’t lost by 12 to your biggest rival the week after playing Fucking Mercer.

On the surface, it sounds like Saban has a point, but believe me, if Alabama had lost to anyone in the SEC by 30 points, but then came back to win the conference, the only debate would be whether they were still qualified to be the number one seed, or if they would have to be a two.
 
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I will say this about the game...whatever you think of JT playing, running, and throwing (poorly at times), we actually had a better chance at making the playoffs without him. It would have been the 2014 scenario all over again, winning the B1G with a back-up in a big game would have been the added touch to the narrative that might have given us the nod. I'm not saying we win 59-0 with Haskins, but I think we still would have won, and it would have given the committee something extra to think about. Barrett is a known commodity, if you will. I understand why Urban went with him, though.
 
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THREE KEY STATS: OHIO STATE EXPLODES FOR BIG PLAYS, SHUTS DOWN WISCONSIN RUNNING GAME AND KEEPS BADGERS OUT OF END ZONE

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While Ohio State struggled to put away Wisconsin on Saturday night, the Buckeyes never trailed against the Badgers and ultimately held on for a 27-21 victory in the Big Ten Championship Game.

On a night where Ohio State’s offense committed three turnovers and struggled to consistently manufacture first downs – finishing the night with only 16 – what enabled the Buckeyes to nonetheless maintain control of the game and win their second conference championship game over the Badgers in four years?

The following three statistics played a big part in the Buckeyes’ success.

OHIO STATE HAS FOUR OFFENSIVE PLAYS OF MORE THAN 50 YARDS


Going into Saturday’s game, Wisconsin’s defense – which ranked No. 1 in the nation in total yards allowed per game entering the game – had allowed only three plays from scrimmage of 50 or more yards for the entire season.

The Badgers allowed more 50-plus-yard plays to Ohio State’s offense in Saturday’s game alone.

Ohio State’s first big offensive play came on its second possession, when J.T. Barrett and Terry McLaurin connected for an 84-yard touchdown pass. Two possessions later, Parris Campbell turned a screen pass from Barrett into a 57-yard touchdown. Two possessions after that, J.K. Dobbins ran for a 77-yard gain that set up a 1-yard Barrett rushing touchdown one play later.

Dobbins added another big play on Ohio State’s second possession of the second half, when he ran for a 53-yard gain that set up a 27-yard field goal by Sean Nuernberger.

While the Buckeyes struggled to put together consistent scoring drives in Saturday’s game, those four big plays were enough to lead the way for Ohio State to 449 total yards and 27 total points – both the highest totals allowed by the Badgers this season.

WISCONSIN DEFENSE HELD TO 1.9 YARDS PER CARRY
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Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...sin-running-game-and-keeps-badgers-out-of-end
 
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Just got home Canton and only read a few pages. JFC! Stop with the negativity. OSU just won the damn Big Ten! Enjoy it for at least a few hours before you have to start hating life again.

This x100000000.

OSU just beat the #4 team in the country, manhandled the #1 defense in the country for a majority of the game and completely shut down one of the best rushing attacks in the country. All of which happened after the starting QB had surgery 6 days prior, who also dinged up his shoulder during the game. Were mistakes made? Sure. But these kids & coaches are human like the rest of us.

Don’t want a chance to win a national title? GTFO. What does a meaningless bowl game do for you? Nothing. I want a shot. And this team wants a shot.

Get healthy, prepare and go out and win the fucking thing.

LETS GO BUCKS!!!!
 
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I’m sorry but, this needs said...

Fuck Arch. Ban that dude. We’re out here in Indy putting our hearts on the line for our team.

Let’s get rid of this poster.

I’m dead serious.

Go Bucks! Big Ten Champions!!

If you go back through this thread, you will see many snowflakes with negative comments during the game.. "to make mistakes is easy, to do better may be difficult"..... Snowflakes: STFU and stand with the team win or lose...Could you imagine the posts if this forum was accessible during the Cooper years(most of these Snowflakes aren't old enough to remember the pain), they have been spoiled.
 
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We gave up 18 points, why, because we messed the F up (not fluke bad luck, it was bad team play), we didn't spot them 18 before the game started... It's not a positive.

You're never fucking positive. So what the hell's new? For the life of me, I just don't understand why you come to BP to repeatedly bitch regardless of the outcome.
 
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