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2017 Spring Practice Info & Tidbits

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by MD Buckeye, Mar 7, 2017.

  1. RB07OSU

    RB07OSU #7 aka Vick the human joystick Staff Member BP Recruiting Team

    DOBBINS :banger::banger::banger:
     
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  2. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.



    Chances of Ohio State winning all the games (i.e. "win out%"): 32.8%

    2nd highest % is Alabama at 9.1%
     
  3. MaxBuck

    MaxBuck 2014 National Champions!

    Interesting also to see three of the top 10 are B1G ... and none of them from TSUN. :banger:
     
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  5. NFBuck

    NFBuck The Danger.

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  6. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

  7. shiznit7

    shiznit7 The Buffer Guest

    Today was a little slow for me, so I dabbled in what I know best, spreadsheets and finding ways to make Michigan look bad.

    I decided to chart the 85 guys on scholarship for both Ohio State and UM and sort them according to their 247 composite recruit rankings and, well, here it is (OSU is in RED, like it should be):
    upload_2017-4-7_14-43-39.png
    These numbers are absolutely staggering. Michigan has more pound for pound talent at only 3/85 scholarship spots, 1 (Rashan Gary) and 84-85... That's it. Ohio State absolutely dominates talent-wise from 2-83. Strictly speaking to recruiting rankings, Ohio State's 34th most talented guy (Burrell) is equivalent to Michigan's 15th (K. Walker). Our 26th guy (Baugh) = their 12th (Singleton). Our 50th guy (Williamson) = their 27th (O. Martin). Those are incredible differences.

    This isn't something that Harbaugh can easily fix, even if given a decade. It's a deeply systemic difference that shows just how differently the two rosters are shaped and the talent that is on the field at any given time.

    In sum, this shows that Ohio State has much more room for margin of error when it comes to both injuries and in-game issues (play calling, turnovers, etc). There should be no excuses when it comes to blowing the doors off of the Big Ten this year. Urban and Co. have done the recruiting, now it's time to get the numbers to match.
     
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  8. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun

    you gotta get those colors switched man

    an otherwise great message could be lost otherwise
     
  9. shiznit7

    shiznit7 The Buffer Guest

    Edited for clarity because you're 100% right
     
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  10. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.



    In case you wondered, it is 47° F and raining here this morning in YOKOHAMA...:grr:
     
  11. sparcboxbuck

    sparcboxbuck What happened to my ¤cash?

    68 and rain in Chicago. Your weather was ours last week.
     
  12. shiznit7

    shiznit7 The Buffer Guest

    upload_2017-4-21_1-24-12.png
    And the gap isn't closing any time soon...
     
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  13. redguard117

    redguard117 Senior

    If you get a chance someday, would love to see a similar infograph for OSU vs Alabama, or for OSU vs Clemson last year.
     
  14. shiznit7

    shiznit7 The Buffer Guest

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    Alabama added. They're, uhhh, pretty pretty pretty good.
     
  15. Fungo Squiggly

    Fungo Squiggly Mortal enemy of all things Bucky Former Game Champion

    Those last two guys suck.
     
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  16. redguard117

    redguard117 Senior


    Damn, thanks Shiznit - fast work.

    I think the chart shows something we all knew at some level (how many #1 recruiting classes in a row is it now for Saban?), but it's interesting to see it quantified.


    Three things, however :


    1) I haven't exactly been shy about criticizing poor coaching on the Ohio State staff in the past. And to some degree, I think this chart perfectly illustrates why that is necessary : it doesn't matter how good of a recruiter a coach is if he can't coach, since Alabama has everyone beat on that front anyway.

    We win and die against Alabama on the quality of our coaching staff, and that is why it's so necessary to correct deficits as we see them. Sure, we can coast against the Indianas and the MSUs of the world on talent alone, but it's not going to work against Saban or Venables.

    On the flip side, calling for Fickells head when the problem lay in Withers wasn't going to solve anything either. Glad to say BP wasn't full of that crowd.


    2) I would be shocked if Clemson last year had a better curve than we did, yet they managed to beat Alabama. And I'm quite sure a chart in 2014 would also look pretty similar.

    Alabama has a ton of talent, but they're not unbeatable by any means. Urban Meyer, Schiano, and Wilson - if anyone can do it, I sure as hell would put my money on those guys.


    3) As per Clemson last year, and in slight contradiction to point 1: make sure you have a killer QB recruiter. Maybe Beck actually wasn't entirely useless?
     
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