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2017 tOSU Special Teams Discussion

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MililaniBuckeye said:
Apparently the coach with 170 career wins and three national titles thinks otherwise...
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of course lol...My statement wasn't "we should do this" but rather that even if we kicked it deep into the end zone we have good odds to get him as we do now.

I think UFM knows they're taking a knee 95% of the time and they gain those 10 extra yards which is why we do what we do. We can kick it into the endzone we just chose not to which I prefer when we play teams that don't have game breakers back there.

Like against PSU. Oh god, just let them start at the 25. IMO, we are better on both sides of the ball up front then PSU so don't let a mistake beat you on ST's.
 
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This needs to improve on kickoffs. I know the wind plays a factor last night at Nebraska but I think Urban needs to stick with one kicker be it Sean or Blake. Maybe the longer they stay at it they will catch on sooner or later as to where he wants the ball kicked. It just seems changing kickers each week is not getting the job done.
 
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Buckeyes Preparing To Beat PSU By A Foot

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It’s almost impossible to outgain your opponent by well over 100 yards, control the ball for more than 37 minutes, commit zero turnovers, limit their offense to just 2-for-13 on third downs, and still lose a football game. But Ohio State did just that last October in State College, PA.

The Buckeye offense and defense were seemingly in total control of the game, holding a 21-7 lead going into the fourth quarter, before the special teams turned in the kind of performance that usually ends with the punchline “The Aristocrats!”

After PSU quarterback Trace McSorely scrambled into the end zone with 13:32 left in the game, the Nittany Lions then blocked a Buckeye punt to set up a field goal that cut it to 21-17.

Even then, the Buckeyes were seemingly still in good shape, driving down the field and setting up a 45-yard field goal try by Tyler Durbin with just under five minutes left. Penn State got pressure in the middle of the line and blocked the kick. PSU’s Grant Haley scooped the ball up and out-raced Buckeye holder Cameron Johnston to the end zone to give the Lions a 24-21 win.

“We had that game won, really,” said OSU junior kicker Sean Nuernberger.

“It’s just such a freak play. Even if you miss that field goal, it’s still fine. You’re up four points with a couple minutes left. It really takes one of those freak accidents for them to block it, get the ball and score a touchdown.”

Entire article: https://theozone.net/2017/10/buckeyes-preparing-beat-penn-state-foot/
 
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Football: Kickoffs have hurt Ohio State all season long. It was no different vs. Penn State.

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Ninety-seven yards and a cloud of dust.

On the opening kickoff of Ohio State’s game against Penn State, running back Saquon Barkley caught the kick on the Ohio State 3-yard line and took it the distance.

Kickoffs have been head coach Urban Meyer’s No. 1 complaint after nearly every game. The unit did not improve against Penn State, and it nearly cost the Buckeyes their season.

There was nothing inherently wrong with the opening kick. It was to the corner Ohio State is always shooting for, and the coverage converged on the spot. But there was a hole Barkley found on the left side, and he exploded down the sideline and into the end zone with ease, coming close to contact only momentarily after catching the kick.

By the time the game was over and the dust from Barkley’s run had settled, Ohio State emerged victorious against Penn State with a 39-38 win. But the special teams nearly cost the team its season on multiple occasions. Meyer was so flustered by his team’s poor play, he did not even want to discuss it with the team.

“Our kickoff coverage, I’m not even going to take questions on that,” Meyer said. “We’re just going to have to make serious changes on personnel and everything else. That was a comedy — comical.”

From that point on, the Buckeyes avoided Barkley on their kickoffs, but it didn’t seem to matter. On the third kickoff Ohio State sent, the Buckeyes stopped Penn State at the 20-yard line, but an offsides penalty on the call forced them to redo the kick. The result? A 6-foot-1, 237-pound linebacker named Koa Farmer caught the ball and brought it back 59 yards to Ohio State’s 23-yard line. Penn State converted the excellent field position into seven points.

Every time the ball was in the air, everyone in the stadium collectively held their breath waiting to see the end result. At one point, the Nittany Lions began their drive at their own 30-yard line, causing a roaring ovation from the fans that the damage was limited.

Entire article: https://www.thelantern.com/2017/10/...eason-long-it-was-no-different-vs-penn-state/
 
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I've never played or coached football in my life; however, isn't the kick return team supposed to "stay in their lanes" when running down field so you have coverage accross the field? Isn't someone (on the wide side of the field) resposnible for "containment" so the runner can not go wide and get around the corner? In addition, to some of the guys not being able to "shed their blocks", if you look a the video frame by frame (.08 to .13 seconds) it looks to me that some of the return guys took a "bad angle" to tackle the runner.
 
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BUCK3YE5 said:
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Overhaul the entire fucking thing. Scheme, personnel, everything. They're a total disaster.
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Parris Campbell has the 3rd highest KO return average in all of CFB at 36.6 (better than Barkley by the way)

As a team OSU is 2nd in the nation in KO returns at 28.16 YPR
somehow they are only #41 in KO return defense at 19 YPR but have given up 2 TD's

Punt returns are 97th at 4.87 ypr
Punt return Defense is 2nd in NCAA at 0.0 ypr (not kidding)

Net punting is quite good at #11 (41.83 ypp)

Neumberger is 9/11 on FG's

so it's weird, obviously the KO coverage and the lack of punt return yards are head scratchers given the talent they have to work with but all of special teams isn't a disaster
 
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Looking at the more advanced stats it tells a similar story:

coming into this week they were #10 in NFP (net starting field position) which essentially sums up the net effectiveness of all your special teams.

FG efficiency, Kick Of efficiency and Punt return efficiency are all very poor
 
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