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nomatta
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First half was good on D, kind of lost that towards the end.
The turnovers were inexcusable. An overmatched opponent and you turn it over 20 plus times? That is concerning for me. Jallow doesn't look a lick better from last season, but the off-season reports kind of prepared us for that.
Offense was okay overall, I guess (I mean, I dunno, we were playing a D2 team) but the 3-point shooting has to be a lot better if this team is gonna have any hope of competing against other high majors.
The turnovers were inexcusable. An overmatched opponent and you turn it over 20 plus times? That is concerning for me. Jallow doesn't look a lick better from last season, but the off-season reports kind of prepared us for that.
Offense was okay overall, I guess (I mean, I dunno, we were playing a D2 team) but the 3-point shooting has to be a lot better if this team is gonna have any hope of competing against other high majors.
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Agreed with all of that. Way, way too many turnovers and I don't know that there is a single player on the team that will scare an opponent at the offensive end.
Definitely some positives, though.
Kyle Young looks like a completely different player. Potter played really well, as did Ledee, albeit his stats almost exclusively in garbage time.
Jackson and the Wessons seem comparable to last year.
Muhammad definitely had some good moments. Washington had a couple, but he's going to need some time.
I don't see Ahrens being a factor this year.
Woods was surprisingly quiet, in my IMO. I really expected him to look for his shot more. Even when he had some looks, he seemed almost hesitant to shoot. A part of that may be that he was in more of a PG role when CJ Jackson wasn't out there with him.
And Jallow....yeah. He's the only one tonight where I really came away didappointed. Just not a good night. When he came out late, his head was definitely hanging and there didn't seem to be much coming in the way of comfort from his teammates. No idea what's going on.
Overall, I think they are who we expect them to be. I don't see them out-shooting many teams, so they're going to need to do it with effort, defense, and rebounding. The chemistry does seem to be good with these guys too -- lots of cheering from the bench when a guy on the floor made a high effort play.
However, its probably not wise to read too much into this game. The Wessons barely played in the 2nd half, Lane got over 7 minutes, and it seems like Holtman was really playing around with lineups. There was a long stretch with Ahrens, woods, Jallow, Washington, and Ledee on the floor -- I would be absolutely floored if we see that lineup in any real game.
Of note, Brian Snead, Tyreke Smith (I think), and a couple other football players were right behind us. They spent most of halftime taking pictures with fans and generally just seemed like a bunch of good dudes.
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DZ83CK
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I think this team will be stronger on D than O. CH has the pieces to have a very sound defensive ballclub, perhaps the best in the B1G. I wouldn't read too much into the turnovers just yet - a lot of experinentation and PT for backups that wont play as much in big games. Jallow has struggled with turnovers since he came to OSU, unfortunately.
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The turnovers are going to happen, especially early in the season. Hopefully by conference play it's evened out a bit though.
I like the aggressiveness and energy though. Seems like they attacked the glass well (be it against a far lesser opponent) rebounding and defense seems like it could be solid. They will probably lose a few they probably shouldn't (only in conference hopefully) but with such play they might grind a few out that they probably shouldn't win
Jallow is really the only negative I see out of this (minus the overall turnovers) just seems like he has not really progressed at all since stepping on campus.
I like the aggressiveness and energy though. Seems like they attacked the glass well (be it against a far lesser opponent) rebounding and defense seems like it could be solid. They will probably lose a few they probably shouldn't (only in conference hopefully) but with such play they might grind a few out that they probably shouldn't win
Jallow is really the only negative I see out of this (minus the overall turnovers) just seems like he has not really progressed at all since stepping on campus.
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Jallow is one of the kids I was most hopeful for this season. Hopefully this was a bump and not a trend.
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LitlBuck
Kevin Warren is an ass
I really feel for the kid because I think he did Holtmann a favor by graduating early. I know he was on the team last season so that should give him some confidence but he is still young in basketball terms and I am just hopeful that he can progress a little more this season. However, his playing time is going to get more limited if he continues to play the way he did last night. Maybe staying in high school for one more season would have done him a lot of good.
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LitlBuck
Kevin Warren is an ass
I think that if guys continue to make turnovers their playing time will become more and more limited as the season progresses. I think this is one phase of the game that Holtmann despises more than any other except maybe lack of effort. I think we will always get the latter from the 5 guys that he puts on the court and that is the reason I am sort of optimistic about this season. I just think that we are going to win more games than people think we will and it will be because of our aggressiveness on defense and on the boards.
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I don't think that's really possible this year, especially at the Guard positions. Muhammad and Washington are going to have to get a decent amount of minutes, which just makes it a "deal with the growing pains" kind of deal. Gonna have to take the good and the bad with them until they become more seasoned.
Jallow is going to be the one who suffers if he can't show any improvement early on. (his performance in this exhibition makes me not so optimistic about that)
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nomatta
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Holtmann and I are on the same page!
On the list of things that I hate watching as a fan, lack of effort and turnovers are basically 1a and 1b (Loving was often a double whammy of awful). Turnovers are just the worst. Wasted possessions that often lead to easy points for the other team.
Glad to hear Holtmann say that he is not going to give extended minutes to guys who can't take care of the ball, and he seemed very serious about that, but Jallow turned it over a lot, Andre turned it over a lot, Washington turned it over a lot (and I think virtually everyone on the roster except for maybe Woods turned it over at least once?)... so to some degree Chris' hands are gonna be tied a little about just how much he can bench players unless we see a few guys really clean it up.
But it has to happen. God knows, we turn it over like that versus UC, we're gonna get crushed.
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nomatta
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Nagging injury issues have really hindered Jallow's off-season, apparently.
He didn't do much on the Spain trip, wasn't great or full-go in practices, didn't do much in the Xavier scrimmage from what I understand, and was pretty bad last night.
Glad to see him rebound the ball, something he rarely did last season and something he should be able to do well with his length and athleticism, but the turnovers and shooting were turrible.
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HOW MICAH POTTER'S TRANSFER AFFECTS OHIO STATE THIS SEASON AND BEYOND
Brought in as part of Thad Matta’s final recruiting class, Micah Potter started 12 games as a freshman, averaging 4.1 points and 3.1 rebounds in 14.1 minutes per game.
But as a sophomore last season in Chris Holtmann’s first year as head coach, the big man’s role decreased. Potter suffered an ankle injury early in the season and didn’t play more than 16 minutes in a game after Dec. 19. He played just 10.1 minutes per game and once again averaged 4.1 points per contest.
Potter, who Ohio State announced on Monday will transfer from the program, said at the team’s media day in late September that “it was tough” dealing with his injury while the Buckeyes took off in the rankings last season. He also referenced “distractions” that he mentally had to deal with.
“Last year was a very good teaching point for me,” Potter said in September. “A lot of it came with me not playing as much as I would have liked to, which, like I said, it's part of the business. If it's not broke, don't fix it. It is what it is. But that's just something I had to deal with personally, and it really was a big teaching point for me and humbling point for me, just because I came in with a lot of confidence, a lot of high expectations for myself.
“But at the same time, when things happen that you can't control and it's not something you'd like, there's nothing you can do about it. You've just kind of got to take a back seat and just sit down and just watch and just learn.”
At Big Ten Media Day last month, Holtmann empathized with Potter’s feelings, but said the coaches made the necessary moves to win.
“It's hard for kids when they don't play a whole lot or don't play as much,” Holtmann said. “It's really hard and they've got to manage it the best they can. We're always forced to make a decision when you feel like it's in the best interest of the team. But he's really grown and matured, and I'm excited about his junior season.”
HOW POTTER’S TRANSFER AFFECTS OHIO STATE THIS SEASON
Potter’s announced transfer away from Ohio State came at an inopportune time for the Buckeyes, at least in the short term.
He was never going to be a starter on the team this season, unless Kaleb Wesson got hurt, but he was slated to back up Wesson at center. And Holtmann said he didn’t plan to play Potter and Wesson together in the lineup consistently, if ever.
The 6-foot-9, 240 pounder offered the Buckeyes depth in the frontcourt, though. Potter showed that in the team’s exhibition against UNC Pembroke on Thursday when he led the team with 13 points and grabbed six rebounds in just 10 minutes. After the game, Holtmann said Potter did “some really good things.”
“I thought he rebounded the ball well, really well,” Holtmann said after the game. “We all know with Micah offensively, he's always really been a guy who offensively can do some things. He can shoot the ball. He's got great lift around the rim. He's gotten where he can catch the ball. It's defense and defensive rebounding at the end of the day for him. Because offensively he's really gifted in some areas. I thought our guys did a great job finding him. He did a great job attacking the rim.”
The loss of Potter increases the pressure on Wesson to play more minutes per game than he managed last season. It also likely forces Jaedon LeDee into a larger role than Ohio State expected when it landed a commitment from the freshman.
Both Wesson and the coaching staff spent much of the preseason talking about Wesson’s improved conditioning, and he looked slimmed down in the exhibition game. But Holtmann said Wesson was in good shape to begin the season last year, and it deteriorated as the season progressed. Wesson also has to stay out of foul trouble after 2.8 fouls per game in 20.7 minutes as a freshman.
Any minutes without Wesson on the court will now either force the Buckeyes to rely on LeDee as a freshman or play small.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...fer-affects-ohio-state-this-season-and-beyond
Brought in as part of Thad Matta’s final recruiting class, Micah Potter started 12 games as a freshman, averaging 4.1 points and 3.1 rebounds in 14.1 minutes per game.
But as a sophomore last season in Chris Holtmann’s first year as head coach, the big man’s role decreased. Potter suffered an ankle injury early in the season and didn’t play more than 16 minutes in a game after Dec. 19. He played just 10.1 minutes per game and once again averaged 4.1 points per contest.
Potter, who Ohio State announced on Monday will transfer from the program, said at the team’s media day in late September that “it was tough” dealing with his injury while the Buckeyes took off in the rankings last season. He also referenced “distractions” that he mentally had to deal with.
“Last year was a very good teaching point for me,” Potter said in September. “A lot of it came with me not playing as much as I would have liked to, which, like I said, it's part of the business. If it's not broke, don't fix it. It is what it is. But that's just something I had to deal with personally, and it really was a big teaching point for me and humbling point for me, just because I came in with a lot of confidence, a lot of high expectations for myself.
“But at the same time, when things happen that you can't control and it's not something you'd like, there's nothing you can do about it. You've just kind of got to take a back seat and just sit down and just watch and just learn.”
At Big Ten Media Day last month, Holtmann empathized with Potter’s feelings, but said the coaches made the necessary moves to win.
“It's hard for kids when they don't play a whole lot or don't play as much,” Holtmann said. “It's really hard and they've got to manage it the best they can. We're always forced to make a decision when you feel like it's in the best interest of the team. But he's really grown and matured, and I'm excited about his junior season.”
HOW POTTER’S TRANSFER AFFECTS OHIO STATE THIS SEASON
Potter’s announced transfer away from Ohio State came at an inopportune time for the Buckeyes, at least in the short term.
He was never going to be a starter on the team this season, unless Kaleb Wesson got hurt, but he was slated to back up Wesson at center. And Holtmann said he didn’t plan to play Potter and Wesson together in the lineup consistently, if ever.
The 6-foot-9, 240 pounder offered the Buckeyes depth in the frontcourt, though. Potter showed that in the team’s exhibition against UNC Pembroke on Thursday when he led the team with 13 points and grabbed six rebounds in just 10 minutes. After the game, Holtmann said Potter did “some really good things.”
“I thought he rebounded the ball well, really well,” Holtmann said after the game. “We all know with Micah offensively, he's always really been a guy who offensively can do some things. He can shoot the ball. He's got great lift around the rim. He's gotten where he can catch the ball. It's defense and defensive rebounding at the end of the day for him. Because offensively he's really gifted in some areas. I thought our guys did a great job finding him. He did a great job attacking the rim.”
The loss of Potter increases the pressure on Wesson to play more minutes per game than he managed last season. It also likely forces Jaedon LeDee into a larger role than Ohio State expected when it landed a commitment from the freshman.
Both Wesson and the coaching staff spent much of the preseason talking about Wesson’s improved conditioning, and he looked slimmed down in the exhibition game. But Holtmann said Wesson was in good shape to begin the season last year, and it deteriorated as the season progressed. Wesson also has to stay out of foul trouble after 2.8 fouls per game in 20.7 minutes as a freshman.
Any minutes without Wesson on the court will now either force the Buckeyes to rely on LeDee as a freshman or play small.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...fer-affects-ohio-state-this-season-and-beyond
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