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2018 NFL Draft Talk Thread

I dunno....Crowell and Johnson are already a solid set of backs, they have so many other areas of concern. I'm fine with Smith getting signed, but would still take Darnold.

If they traded down; I'd want them to beef up that secondary...get 2 of James, Ward, Fitzpatrick, Jackson.
If last night was any indication of Fitzpatrick's abilities, I would definitely grab him....
 
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Name one great QB who, A) isn't obsessed with football, B) takes public political stands, C) has constant talk of teammates hating him, D) isn't a natural leader.

Because the best QB's in the league, now and recently.....Brady, Manning, Big Ben, Rivers, Brees, etc. all are. If you aren't the unspoken leader of the locker room, it ain't going to work....Rosen has never been and will never be that.

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What the hell does A even mean? What would qualify as obsessed with you? Me personally, I think its some abstract you have in your head that you can't quantify. Likewise with the "natural leader" comment. What proof have you to the contrary?

The talk of team mates hating him always comes from anonymous sources I've seen. Any time a player has gone on record they've never said anything remotely close to that. I notice you left Rodgers out of your best QB list... is he not worthy of inclusion?

And finally - football has been a platform players have used to gather awareness to political or civil ideaology for years. Kaep was hardly the first. Hell, find me a QB that didn't kneel or join arms in solidarity after our president decided to be a jackass and call citizens "son of a bitch" at the little rally in Alabama.

If I had to take a guess, I think your dislike of Rosen is politically motivated and not because of his merits and ability on the field. There's no way you can sit there straight faced and say about Darnold that turnovers dont concern you. Not a chance you can't see that Rosen tends to handle pressure within the pocket a bit better.
Been a long time since I've checked the poli board, and now that it's gone the way of the dodo Bird I can't. But your arguing points are all objective in nature and not a one regarding in field production. Me thinks your problem lies elsewhere.
 
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In order -

What the hell does A even mean? What would qualify as obsessed with you? Me personally, I think its some abstract you have in your head that you can't quantify. Likewise with the "natural leader" comment. What proof have you to the contrary?

The talk of team mates hating him always comes from anonymous sources I've seen. Any time a player has gone on record they've never said anything remotely close to that. I notice you left Rodgers out of your best QB list... is he not worthy of inclusion?

And finally - football has been a platform players have used to gather awareness to political or civil ideaology for years. Kaep was hardly the first. Hell, find me a QB that didn't kneel or join arms in solidarity after our president decided to be a jackass and call citizens "son of a bitch" at the little rally in Alabama.

If I had to take a guess, I think your dislike of Rosen is politically motivated and not because of his merits and ability on the field. There's no way you can sit there straight faced and say about Darnold that turnovers dont concern you. Not a chance you can't see that Rosen tends to handle pressure within the pocket a bit better.
Been a long time since I've checked the poli board, and now that it's gone the way of the dodo Bird I can't. But your arguing points are all objective in nature and not a one regarding in field production. Me thinks your problem lies elsewhere.

Obsession/love of football is pretty easy, IMO, to view....it's the QB who's pissed off on a 3rd and out, he beats himself up after an INT, who is too pissed to talk after a loss. And leadership - that also is pretty viewable....again, the guys I've mentioned show it. If you can't see what a leader looks like, that's more on you than me.

I didn't put Rodgers on my list for a reason - I think he's very good, but also think he's overrated if you're talking about "best" QB. He's close (his desire/willingness to come back early after injury was a sign of that) but he's still got time to.

I'm sorry you think it's a political stance that leads me to dislike Rosen....unfortunately for you, I didn't vote for Trump. But I think taking any political stance as a QB is highly dangerous; have you noticed Brady won't say a thing on Trump? He understands.

Football players do have platforms; but saying/doing something that will alienate half your team is not a smart move.

Darnold's turnovers concern me as much as Watson's did. Watson was 2nd in the nation in INT's with 17. This is all while working behind a sieve of an OL that gave up 8 sacks and 14TFL - have to look at more than just a number.
 
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NFL Draft analyst tries to watch Michigan film, praises Billy Price instead



Billy Price stands out on film. How much so? He can distract analysts from trying to break down tape of opposing players.

Earlier this week, Bleacher Report’s NFL Draft expert Matt Miller said that he was trying to watch film of some of Michigan’s defensive linemen, but his eyes kept focusing on the play of Price, Ohio State’s center in 2017.

“Trying to watch some Michigan DL this morning and can’t stop watching Billy Price,” Miller wrote on Twitter. “Said it over summer, Ohio State cetner will have a Rd 1 (grade) from me.”

Entire article: https://www.landof10.com/ohio-state/billy-price-nfl-draft-film-analysis-michigan-ohio-state
 
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2018 NFL Draft: Record number of early entries a risky proposition for players

Many NFL-eligible juniors ignore advice provided by the league and risk going undrafted each year

Gil Brandt threw the full weight of his 84 years of life, draft and NFL knowledge at Oklahoma tight end Mark Andrews this week.

"I told him not to come out, stay in school, [that] he'd be a third-round choice," said Brandt, the longtime NFL personnel guru. "He came out. He'll be a third-round choice. He'd be a lot better off because there's a weak class next year. He'd have a chance to move up."

As a redshirt junior, Andrews was a consensus All-American and Mackey Award winner (best tight end) who was Heisman winner Baker Mayfield's favorite target. Those honors matter only a little compared to the harsh realities of NFL Draft evaluation. Andrews is one of what is expected to be a record 112 underclassmen betting their skills matter enough to get them drafted in the first two rounds, where the real money is.

The odds continue to mount against their success. Since 2014, when NFL draft evaluations changed for juniors, almost a third (31.6 percent) of those declaring have gone undrafted. Using that ratio, a record 37 underclassmen won't be drafted in April. The total reflects a growing trend of bad advice, rampant agent runners and simply bad choices by some players.

It's a trend that long ago got the attention of college and NFL types. The total number of undrafted underclassmen since 2014 (118) is roughly equal to the roster size of the average FBS program.

"Whether or not you want to believe it or not, there are a lot of people in these kids' ear," new Arizona coach Kevin Sumlin said. "There are even more people in their families' ear that really don't understand, financially, you can play your way into a lot more money."

Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...arly-entries-a-risky-proposition-for-players/
 
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Been saying for 6 months, the Browns need Billy Price and build that offense up the middle. QB in free agency that is competent. Trade one of the first two picks for a move back in the round and pick Price. Could take Barkley at number 4 if he's still there but if not, pick the OT of their choice to replace Joe Thomas and play right tackle right now. What good is a QB if he gets killed early and often? WR's are pretty decent and they might even bring back Pryor who they have familiarity with.

2nd round if they haven't already addressed the DBs, do it there or find a pass rushing specialist. So many holes but they aren't going to get it done with a rookie QB. Build the smart way and stay in games until everyone gels and the playmakers show up. Or, keep doing what Browns do and continue to be the worst franchise in NFL history.
 
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