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2018 tOSU Defense Discussion

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by bukIpower, Dec 5, 2017.

  1. bigdog3300

    bigdog3300 The G.O.A.T.

    I think we put way too much stock into stats, quality of play, etc. when it comes to the NFL Draft. The draft is about 1 thing...potential, and Jones is, as you've said, is through the roof.

    At this point I expect Jones to leave and be a Top 60 pick. Baker I think leaves as well and he should be a 2nd day pick. Yes, I completely agree his play has been less than expected, but his athleticism jumps off the screen and scouts and teams will fall in love with that. Every team believes 100% they can change players, "coach them up", etc.

    IMO - Jones would be a much bigger loss.
  2. pnuts34

    pnuts34 Drunk off of wolverine tears

    Agreed. Losing Jones on a defensive line with few proven stars or guys we're familiar with hurts. LB should be fine even if Baker were to leave
  3. GovTressel

    GovTressel Junior

    I’m not familiar with his family situation or other motivations...just commenting o

    And for all the talk about “costing themselves money”-there are many examples going both ways. Cardale cost himself MILLIONS by coming did Doss.

    And as has been pointed out-we often don’t look at the biggest factor. I didn’t grow up dirt poor or in a horrible neighborhood..I can only imagine what it would be like to have grown up that way and have family still living in it, and have the opportunity to change that completely with one choice when I was 21.
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  4. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    I have to admit that if we don't get Jones to come back I'm a little worried about this DL... We probably should've hit DL a little harder last year in recruiting because wow if Jones goes we don't have a ton of depth.
  5. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    If is head is indeed not in the right place, then it may be best for him to leave. Talent and potential mean squat if your heart isn't into it. I still think a full season without any aberrations, and with performances like against Bucky, could put him as a first-round lock...
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  6. jwinslow

    jwinslow more than the drops in the ocean Staff Member

    Last year's recruiting on the DL was superb. The nation's best DE, two high end DTs and a pretty good third one in Cage.

    They're just striking out this year. If they landed Cox and Oweh to go with their current DTs, it would be another monster class. They may still get two studs.

    And with Bosa and Young already here, they don't need home runs (like Michigan needs from Oxford). They need good players and one guy who can contribute part time. That's where Cox hurts the most because he was a tank.
  7. jwinslow

    jwinslow more than the drops in the ocean Staff Member

    Scouts will also notice the steep drop-off in play for Worley post fickell. It won't be hard to talk yourself into a top 50 pick for Baker once he runs like a first round safety.
  8. Hstead

    Hstead Senior

    Not to mention Cooper is no slouch either. Color me not worried about the Dline.
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  9. GovTressel

    GovTressel Junior

    Has to be 1a and 1b with RB on units to worry the least about next year.
  10. bucknut502

    bucknut502 Junior

    Who was the third DT? Garrett, Cage, ???
  11. pnuts34

    pnuts34 Drunk off of wolverine tears

    If we can get a healthy Barrow back, and keep him healthy in the rotation that would be huge!

    I also wonder if Cornell could also play some DE as well as DT like Holmes
  12. jwinslow

    jwinslow more than the drops in the ocean Staff Member

    Yeah, I made that up :lol: Not sure who was coming to mind
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  13. bucknut502

    bucknut502 Junior

    Big Marv?

    If we can land Togiai to go along with Vincent and Jackson,the future of our interior will be just as good as our ends were this year.
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  14. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    I heard this on BN radio 5 this AM and I agree with it...

    I'd love to see Booker moved to DE because he has the height and he can probably add another 10-15 pounds easily in one off season. His speed would be huge and when you factor in Booker being lost at LB I think you have a good candidate to step up at DE.
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  15. bucknut502

    bucknut502 Junior

    I'd rather see Berry move back and have a four man rotation of Bosa, Young, Coop, Berry.

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