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2018 tOSU Defense Discussion

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Dryden said:
Cannot rule out the fact that Harbaugh's offense hasn't evolved in 15 years as a contributing factor. I need to see OSU do this against somebody else. Northwestern would be a good start.
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Yep. Little bit of both imo.

Coaches were coaching like their jobs depended on it and the opposing offense was dogshit.

Defense looked solid vs MSU as well.

Good news is Pat Fitzgerald and the NU offense are cut from the same cloth.
 
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OhioState001 said:
I think the biggest improvement in the defense was that they did not give up one huge play that I can remember. When TTUN scored they had to march down the field and pick up multiple tough 3rd downs. That made a big difference.
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Yes.

Saw 3-4 plays that went for long TD's earlier in the year get cleaned up by the safeties for the acceptable 15-20 yard gash.
 
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Can't help but feel somebody on defensive staff stepped in with the LBs after Maryland? Schiano maybe? I get this is the kind of Offense that they've faired better against... but they haven't played like that in 2 years.

For sure Taver's unit was the weakest link yesterday and singlehandedly kept Michigan on the field on more 3rd and longs than I care to remember. While most of the team turned some corners, Arnette and Sheffield regressed badly to poorest form since early last year. Okudah and Wade didn't look all that great in coverage, either... I don't think this is all on 3 and 8.
 
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kujirakira said:
Can't help but feel somebody on defensive staff stepped in with the LBs after Maryland? Schiano maybe? I get this is the kind of Offense that they've faired better against... but they haven't played like that in 2 years.

For sure Taver's unit was the weakest link yesterday and singlehandedly kept Michigan on the field on more 3rd and longs than I care to remember. While most of the team turned some corners, Arnette and Sheffield regressed badly to poorest form since early last year. Okudah and Wade didn't look all that great in coverage, either... I don't think this is all on 3 and 8.
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I don't think Arnette and Sheffield regressed at all. That is who they are.

Doing their best but you can't always reload after the loss of a 1st round DB with another 1st rounder.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
I don't think Arnette and Sheffield regressed at all. That is who they are.

Doing their best but you can't always reload after the loss of a 1st round DB with another 1st rounder.
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Asking to not get posterized or called for PI every 3rd and long is a far cry from expecting 1st round talent. Antonio Smith would school every one of our CBs right now. Where was he drafted? 6th round or something?

They improved a lot over course of last year... from being liabilities on everything thrown their way to being above average.
That regressed badly yesterday. Some of it was awful officiating; but it is what it is... probably half of Michigan's points can be traced directly to CB play. And, again, it's not like 1 and 24 were looking particularly better. Or that Shea was making good throws... this was jump ball pray-to-god and lob it up there junk... and they couldn't handle it.
3 and 24 were lights out in the screen game, so I'll give them that.

Edit: Antonio went undrafted.
 
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kujirakira said:
Asking to not get posterized or called for PI every 3rd and long is a far cry from expecting 1st round talent. Antonio Smith would school every one of our CBs right now. Where was he drafted? 6th round or something?

They improved a lot over course of last year... from being liabilities on everything thrown their way to being above average.
That regressed badly yesterday. Some of it was awful officiating; but it is what it is... probably half of Michigan's points can be traced directly to CB play. And, again, it's not like 1 and 24 were looking particularly better. Or that Shea was making good throws... this was jump ball pray-to-god and lob it up there junk... and they couldn't handle it.
3 and 24 were lights out in the screen game, so I'll give them that.

Edit: Antonio went undrafted.
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I'd say it was about 50/50 terrible officiating vs dumb mistakes. Especially since 90% of those balls weren't going to be caught anyways so for the love of god get your hands off of the receiver.
 
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dragurd said:
I'd say it was about 50/50 terrible officiating vs dumb mistakes. Especially since 90% of those balls weren't going to be caught anyways so for the love of god get your hands off of the receiver.
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doesn't seem to be a big issue for 24 or 1 so not sure what 8 or 3 have to do to be better.

I think when you aren't confident you tend to grab when you don't even need to.
 
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kujirakira said:
Asking to not get posterized or called for PI every 3rd and long is a far cry from expecting 1st round talent. Antonio Smith would school every one of our CBs right now. Where was he drafted? 6th round or something?

They improved a lot over course of last year... from being liabilities on everything thrown their way to being above average.
That regressed badly yesterday. Some of it was awful officiating; but it is what it is... probably half of Michigan's points can be traced directly to CB play. And, again, it's not like 1 and 24 were looking particularly better. Or that Shea was making good throws... this was jump ball pray-to-god and lob it up there junk... and they couldn't handle it.
3 and 24 were lights out in the screen game, so I'll give them that.

Edit: Antonio went undrafted.
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We are saying the same thing. 8 & 3 just aren't that good. I don't think they regressed as much as they ran into a couple of stud WR's who, thankfully, are coached by someone too stupid to use them effectively.

The constant underthrows from a ridiculously overrated QB actually make it harder on a DB. WR's make adjustments to come back to the underthrow and there is going to be a lot of contact. Add in flag happy officials and you get 5 PI calls against you in one game. For the record only 2 of the 5 came on 3rd down. Feels like they all did but when you read the game log it was only 2.
 
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